If I'm to upgrade my formal shoes, which shoes would you recommend?

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  1. upr_crust

    upr_crust Senior member

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    Here's a chance to express your opinions. I recently bought a new tuxedo - a midnight blue Phineas Cole one-button, peak lapel, grosgrain trimmed, side-vented number, slim cut like all Phineas Cole suits and tuxedos.

    My current pair of patent leather shoes look a little boxy in comparision to the tuxedo, and I'm toying with the idea of an upgrade. The following four URL's link to four selections which I've found which have some appeal to me, whether by style or cost. I would be interested in the range of opinions related to my selections, though the ultimate decision on purchase would, obviously, be mine.

    In order, from cheapest to most expensive:

    Johnston & Murphy:

    http://www.johnstonmurphy.com/fulch...8475_width=M#srule=PriceHighLow&sz=12&start=1

    Magnanni via Zappos:

    http://www.zappos.com/magnanni-dante-black-patent

    Paul Stuart:

    https://www.paulstuart.com/men-s/shoes/formal-lace-up.html

    Pierre Corthay, via Saks Fifth Avenue:

    http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main...name=Pierre+Corthay&N=306630911&bmUID=l7MiU1y
     
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    upr_crust Senior member

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    Apologies, but the URL link to Saks does not seem to want to work from here - dunno why.
     
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    EliodA Senior member

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    Link works fine for me. I don't like the red accents at all. I believe I have the Magnaninis, though sold under a different brand name. Nice enough for me, but then I only get to wear them once every two years or so.
     
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    Personally, if you're upgrading, I'd stick to an Oxford, which rules out everything bar the Johnston & Murphys. Without knowing what your current shoes look like, it's hard to make alternative suggestions. But I've been very pleased with my "Peal & Co" patent Oxfords that I picked up from Brooks Brothers a while back. you might even find them on sale at the moment.
     
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    I'd stick to Oxford, but Johnston & Murphys one looks quite boxy - not sure how boxy are your existing ones. Judging by what you usually wear, I'd say not your stile, correct me if I'm wrong here.

    If I disregard first point (Oxford), I like the shape of Paul Stuart.

    You mention cost. I see that Corthay ones quite stick from the rest of the bunch :)
     
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    To answer questions, my current formal shoes are Italian-made J & M's - cap toe oxfords, which are a bit boxy, as I believe the current offering from J & M would be (though I'd have to see them IRL to make that determination).

    On the subject of oxfords, most that I saw online are either too boxy-appearing (BB Peals included), or too insubstantial-looking (Saks was showing Armani, Ferragamo, and Gucci, all of which looked iffy in style or construction or both).

    As for the Magnannis vs. the Paul Stuarts, I suspect that Magnanni private-labels the shoes sold by Stuart's under their own name. My only issue with Magnannis, ordering them online, would be that they run large, in my experience - a half to a full size larger than normal. The detailing on the Paul Stuart shoes is a bit nicer, and I could try them on, but whether that's worth $76 (versus any potential problems with returns and reorders through Zappos) remains to be seen.

    The Corthays were thrown into the mix because I really like the styling, in terms of shape, of Corthay Arcas, but the jump in price point for something I'd wear maybe once or twice a year wouldn't be worth it - unless I opted for the black calfskin, even then, $1600 is a lot of money for a pair of shoes - even with red piping.
     
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    If you copy and paste it into your browser's address bar it'll take you there.

    Cheers,

    Ac
     
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    Consider the EG Holburn. Looks similar to the Arca but cheaper. I got mine from Leffot for maybe $4-500. It's a glued sole but for a shoe used a couple times a year it's not bad. You might have to special order it.

    http://leffot.com/edward-green-holborn-black-patent/
     
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    If you aren't against Meermin or mail order shoes (AKA you are easy to size), then you might want to look into these: https://www.meermin.es/articulo.php?idArt=4216#

    I can't vouch for the patents themselves but Meermin seems like a pretty good deal for the price. The Olfe is a sleek last, IMO (I have chestnut calf oxfords in that last).
     
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    Thank you, gentlemen, for all your insights and suggestions, but, as of this afternoon, I've opted for the shoes from Paul Stuart.

    Below please find a comparison between old and new. Please excuse the socks and trousers with which these shoes have been photographed - on weekends, I do wear jeans and oddly colored socks, on occasion - one cannot live one's entire life dressed in a three-piece suit.

    Old - J & M Tropas

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    New - Paul Stuart house brand:

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    The old pair will be donated to one of my work colleagues, whose feet are exactly my size, and whose appreciation for all of my castoff clothes (such as can fit him - he's much smaller than I) is most deep.
     
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    Very handsome shoe
     
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    Very nice shoe. I have to say, however, that I prefer the old shoe. Just one old guy's opinion, of course!
     
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    I saw both the BB Peals that you mentioned and the J & M offering that was up for consideration, and both were too boxy for my taste when seen in real life. Of course, after the fact, I was in Bergdorf Goodman, and they had a much sleeker proper cap toe oxford in patent leather (and not shown on their web site), but at $100 more than the pair I bought at Paul Stuart, I opt to stick with what I bought.
     
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    Looks good to me. Since formal events often require standing around, I'd pick the most comfortable good looking shoe.
     

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