Idiot's Guide to Getting Big (or: how to stop s***ting up this forum, skinny whiners)

[javyn]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

I apologize in advance for whining......but god, it's really ******* hard and expensive to eat a lot. I think lifting is easier than eating for me.

Same here. The training is definitely easier than the eating. Especially on training days, it's just so hard to get any food down.

 

[Szeph el raton]

Originally Posted by javyn

Same here. The training is definitely easier than the eating. Especially on training days, it's just so hard to get any food down.
I think the same.
Breakfast? No time and no hunger, so I skip it often even I shouldn't
Lunch? Canteen food is usually crap. Heavy on carbohydrates and sauces that scream "fat"
Dinner is the part that works, but when I hit the gym after work, dinner is at 10 or 11 pm.

But I'm trying. You don't have to be perfect but give your best.

 

[danilo]

Originally Posted by thekunk07

i think there was a good cheap food thread before, jekyl should refer to it.

post a link,

this a good post btw

 

[jarude]

Yeah it sucks spending so much on food

You can go cheap by eating mostly tuna and brown rice, which is fairly cheap - as soon as you start with the fruit and steak and whatnot it adds up in a hurry. It's so worth it though.

 

[why]

Eggs, grits, and whole chickens.

 

[thekunk07]

grocery stores seem to always have sales on meat these days. just got 9lbs of sirloin for $17.50

 

[db_ggmm]

Originally Posted by jarude

Your metabolism isn't crippling you - your weak mind, weak discipline, and tendency to overthink things are.

This is a good post and I'm considering reading it once a day for the right attitude. Especially the anecdote guy about stagnating gains with diet changes.

That said, it's not so much what I've quoted. A big part of the problem is that 'normal' non-weight lifting people are inundated daily with really bad advice. Eating the way you have outlined is NOT intuitive, is NOT championed on WebMD, Yahoo / Google news, CNN, MSNBC etc, which are all concerned and worried about the weight epidemic in America, not skinnies trying to gain.

Trying to erase a decade of nutritional advice is not easy and trying to change 33 yr old eating habits aren't, either.

With a little editing and formatting, you could have a sticky.

 

[Thebomb85019]

Is it seriously that expensive? I get it if you are eating filet mignons every night with artichokes.

But really, buy chicken breast. 1.5 pounds should be more than enough protein for three meals (8 ounces of meat per meal) and you are basically looking at 3 bucks for a days worth of meat. Add in some cheap as brown rice or long grain (I am asian, I hate brown rice), and you are basically adding .25 cents at most per day if you buy it at costco. Add in veggies, you can get the big ass bags of frozen veggies, but i like mine freash. A pound of bok choy is only .69 cents and a head of cabbage is the same price. Really, these three meals alone come out to maybe 4-5 bucks at most. Add in oatmeal (buy huge as 10 pound bag at costco for 6 dollars) and it usually last two months equals 10 cents per day and two or three eggs. Congrats you just had a very nutritional breakfast for .50 cents. Add in a banana/apple for 25 cents, and 25 grams of almonds = 25 cents. There is your snack for 50 cents. Altogether there is a whole days worth of food, for 6 or 7 dollars at most.

 

[thekunk07]

normal non-weight lifting people should kill themselves

Originally Posted by db_ggmm

This is a good post and I'm considering reading it once a day for the right attitude. Especially the anecdote guy about stagnating gains with diet changes.

That said, it's not so much what I've quoted. A big part of the problem is that 'normal' non-weight lifting people are inundated daily with really bad advice. Eating the way you have outlined is NOT intuitive, is NOT championed on WebMD, Yahoo / Google news, CNN, MSNBC etc, which are all concerned and worried about the weight epidemic in America, not skinnies trying to gain.

Trying to erase a decade of nutritional advice is not easy and trying to change 33 yr old eating habits aren't, either.

With a little editing and formatting, you could have a sticky.

 

[william]

I'm doing starting strength right now. It's working really well. I'm not drinking milk though...just eating a lot. I've actually been eating a little too much as my gut and ass have gotten a little fat. I just bought some bigger clothes though so I'm cool with it.

My plan is to keep at it until February or so and then try Crossfit for a while. That should lean me out for the Spring & Summer. Then I'll go back to Starting Strength for the Fall/Winter. That's my plan right now anyway..

 

[Eason]

Originally Posted by thekunk07

normal non-weight lifting people should kill themselves

hahaha, fact

 

[robertorex]

Originally Posted by thekunk07

normal non-weight lifting people should kill themselves

I'll add this to my sig when I get back from grinding a few hippies

 

[jarude]

Originally Posted by william

I'm doing starting strength right now. It's working really well. I'm not drinking milk though...just eating a lot. I've actually been eating a little too much as my gut and ass have gotten a little fat. I just bought some bigger clothes though so I'm cool with it. My plan is to keep at it until February or so and then try Crossfit for a while. That should lean me out for the Spring & Summer. Then I'll go back to Starting Strength for the Fall/Winter. That's my plan right now anyway..
Thanks for bringing up Crossfit - its a good way to improve your general level of conditioning, but make sure it fits with your fitness goals. eg - if you wanna get lean and mean, crossfit is good but if you want to keep on adding on size and strength, a more regular weightlifting program might be your best bet. A lot of people like to suck Crossfit dick because its the next greatest thing - don't get me wrong, its cool, but its not going to make you big like a regular lifting program will. As long as its what you want..

Originally Posted by db_ggmm

This is a good post and I'm considering reading it once a day for the right attitude. Especially the anecdote guy about stagnating gains with diet changes. That said, it's not so much what I've quoted. A big part of the problem is that 'normal' non-weight lifting people are inundated daily with really bad advice. Eating the way you have outlined is NOT intuitive, is NOT championed on WebMD, Yahoo / Google news, CNN, MSNBC etc, which are all concerned and worried about the weight epidemic in America, not skinnies trying to gain. Trying to erase a decade of nutritional advice is not easy and trying to change 33 yr old eating habits aren't, either. With a little editing and formatting, you could have a sticky.
It is hard to change your eating habits, but once you "get" portion control and what macronutrients you are taking in, its a lot easier to eat properly. Every time you eat, quantify how much of what macronutrient you're taking in. You don't really realize how much crap you eat until you figure it out. Like right now, I just cheated and ate one of those Casa di Mama oven pizzas. Damn good, but it has very little protein in relation to the ridiculous amount of ****** simple carbs. That, and I ate it right before bed. To some kid who thinks "just eat lots and lift rarrggh" he'll probably think something like this is good, because its got cheese and some meat on it, but its actually pretty ******* bad for you. For example, after watching macros religiously I now know about how much 2 cups of rice looks like, so I don't have to freak out when I don't have a measuring cup to count out my carbs. Now I can go out to the market and grab lunch, and instead of eating a meal thats unbalanced, I know that if I at least pay attention to the portions and what I'm taking in, I'll be fine. So instead of getting a combo deal or whatever, I'll get a big piece of chicken from one place, and a couple whole-grain cheese sandwiches from another - bang, got my protein, carbs and fat in the amounts I need. It starts out being very precise and frustrating but as you learn more about how to eat it becomes a lot easier.

Originally Posted by thekunk07

normal non-weight lifting people should kill themselves
word

 

[Ziss]

Originally Posted by jarude

6. Drink water. At least 2-4 litres a day.

Please forgive my complete ignorance on the subject, but this made me curious. Why should you drink so much water?

 

[adversity04]

http://www.shapefit.com/water-benefits.html Basically you lose a lot of water while working out and dehydration causes all sorts of nasty problems.