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Identify these English-made shoes

zalb916

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Can anyone identify the maker of these shoes by the nail pattern or other identifying marks? I don't have too much information other than that these shoes are made in England. The most noteworthy thing about the pattern appears to be the clusters of three nails. I've seen some Edward Greens with similarly clustered nails, but the sole and rest of the heel just don't seem to be a match. It definitely doesn't appear to be C&J, Grenson, or Alfred Sargent. Any thoughts?




Here's an example of an Edward Green that I've seen which seems to have a similar nail pattern.

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Post pics of the writing inside the heel.
 

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I would, but that's all I have right now. I realize it would be a lot easier with some other identifying marks. I just don't have the actual shoes. Just that picture.
 

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It does look awfully similar to EG
 

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FWIW, the EG you posted is a pic I took on my Northampton tour as an example of a paleo-EG shoe. It was made pre 1982 when John Hlustick took over the company. So it's not likely that your shoes will match it, unless by some chance they are very old.
 

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Originally Posted by zbromer
I would, but that's all I have right now. I realize it would be a lot easier with some other identifying marks. I just don't have the actual shoes. Just that picture.
Not even a picture of the upper? does that imply you don't know what the thing looks like?
 

zalb916

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Originally Posted by Manton
FWIW, the EG you posted is a pic I took on my Northampton tour as an example of a paleo-EG shoe. It was made pre 1982 when John Hlustick took over the company. So it's not likely that your shoes will match it, unless by some chance they are very old.

There actually is some chance that they are very old. I came across two pairs of new old stock loafers from New & Lingwood on ebay. It was my understanding that Edward Green either did or still does make some shoes for N&L. I bought both pairs for a whopping total of $60. The seller had very little information about the shoes other than that they had been sitting brand new and unworn in her father's closet for a number of years. How many years she did not know.

Originally Posted by Manton
Post pics of the writing inside the heel.

The seller could not provide a picture of the writing. However, she described the numbers written on each as:

7.0184
9327

and

7.0184
2067

The shoes are a size 7. I'm guessing the 184 refers to the last, which is an Edward Green loafer last. That seems to be the strongest evidence that these are made by Edward Green.

Originally Posted by speedster.8
Not even a picture of the upper? does that imply you don't know what the thing looks like?

Here are the crappy pictures from the auction. I'll provide more once I receive them.





The bottom pair resembles the EG Belgravia; although, I can't tell if lace is braided, like the Belgravia. The top pair looks a little different. Someone who is more familiar with EG may be able to tell something from the aprons of these shoes as well.
 

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I was going to say that the shoes in the top picture look awfully similar to the older Brooks Brothers Peal models, some of which were EG I believe(?).
 

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I've also seen Brooks Brothers shoes that look like these. Have you tried bringing the picture into a store?
 

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Originally Posted by SoulPatcher
I've also seen Brooks Brothers shoes that look like these. Have you tried bringing the picture into a store?

Huh?

There are probably countless stores that sell shoes that look like these. BB won't have any idea. Why would a BB salesman know where a pair of old N&L shoes were made? I can guarantee you I am much more informed about the shoes BB sells than their salesmen are. I once had a BB salesman tell me a pair of Made in Italy shoes were made by Alden.
 

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I agree about the 184. EG it is I say.
 

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Agree. I'd say that's pretty close to proof.
 

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I should be receiving both pairs in about a week. I'll post more pics after they arrive.
 

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