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Ideas for what to wear/do?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by kalra2411, Aug 5, 2004.

  1. kalra2411

    kalra2411 Senior member

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    I was not asking what I should wear, please reffer back to the original post Bryce and Montecristo.
     
  2. bryce330

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    The name of the thread is "ideas for what to wear/do." Your first post also asks "do you think I should dress differently?"
     
  3. kalra2411

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    Correct, as is the fact that I am not a HRM Department. You would thus realise, that the Chairman/CEO/President does not manage people.




    See below:


    "Does this warrant a response" I ask my wife.

    "Why do you talk to a group of people on the internet"

    "To see what the reaction is"

    "Well, as you can see it is not good, leave it now, and sleep for a few hours, or else you will be sleeping tomorrow"

    "Yeah yeah, just tell me first, what should I say to this person"

    "Tell him he is a crazy little man, earning a pittace"

    "A little harsh would you not say"

    "By no means, who is this person to insult you"

    "I think I will leave him now, in his little dream world, where 20 people is a lot of people to have under you, and by talking to rich people, he thinks he becomes one"
     
  4. kalra2411

    kalra2411 Senior member

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    (kalra2411 @ 05 Aug. 2004, 9:16) I was not asking what I should wear, please reffer back to the original post Bryce and Montecristo.
    The name of the thread is "ideas for what to wear/do." Â Your first post also asks "do you think I should dress differently?"
    Perhaps my mistake then, but please note, look to the original post and not the title, thanks.
     
  5. TomW

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    As I am managed by the Chairman, as is the remainder of his staff, your statement is patently false

    empty, as is your posturing

    If you were capable of understanding the written word, at even a rudimentary level, you would see that I manage a group of 500+ through the 20 who report directly to me.

    BTW - you misspelled pittance. And you got exactly the response you requested, perhaps you did not ask the question you intended. And if I believed there was the remotest chance that you are indeed who you claim to be, I'd be even more amused. As it is, I just find it helps relax me to so easily provoke the expected bluster from you and stir up your little fantasy existence.
     
  6. kalra2411

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    Correction then, manage people as a prime objective.

    The rest, again you are talking nonsense.
     
  7. kalra2411

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    I know of people who run massive comanies, case in hand Ambanis, that simply yell at their employees on the production line. What in the world ever made you think that the type of managment (in human resources terms) leads to a sucessful company, it is one thing, and one thing only, the idea, the marketing, and the grastoniogrphy of the product that determins sucess. Never be mistaken. Moreover, the day that somebody who reports to me, dares to say that they have even the slighest amount of ability as I do, they can be sure that they will be struck off. May I please ask you to tell the owner of the company, which you work for what you just told me.

    But yet...


    Q. Do you make any sense

    A. To a donkey, yes, to a book, yes, to a working-class citizen, perhaps. To anyone above such, never.
     
  8. kalra2411

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    Of course I was putting you down. Perhaps I need not begin on the level of your understanding, as even from your first comment, there was no relevance to the post.
     
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    Ah, this is indeed fun. You become more irrational by the post. [​IMG]
    [​IMG] - the ravings of a man lost in his own delusions. Where has anyone made such an assumption? Every single statement you make supports the conclusion that you are a very low level employee in a large company - perhaps janitorial or building security - with delusions of someday moving up, and very frustrated by the fact that you are passed up by the incompetents who supervise you. I doubt you keep a job more than a few months at a time.
    As it is unlikely in the extreme that there will ever be even one person reporting to you, the point is moot. I surround myself with those who are experts in their respective disciplines and learn from them daily. Many of my employees are far better qualified than I in some areas, none have the breadth of my experience, or my ability to successfully meld those talents into a cohesive team that produces superior results. One or two man develop that experience and then they will replace me, as I will move, either up or laterally, within the company. He that is irreplaceable is unpromotable, and he that is unpromotable has failed and will be replaced.The Sr. staff at my company have now read a good portion of your posts and we have decided to use some of your statements in our Management Training program as examples of poor management and effectiveness.
    Confidence and smug arrogance are not at all the same thing. The first is the ability to leverage a lifetime of experience, both personal and from those around you, to make sound statements and decisions. The second is the conviction, in spite of evidence to the contrary, that you are right. You certainly don't fall in the first category. And from the post just previous:
    The only objective of the President/CEO/Chairman is to maximize shareholder value and return on investment throught the efficient and effective utilization of all resources, be they financial, intellectual, physical or human. Surely you comprehend these basics of business. Unfortunately, I've no more time to toy with you - a truly joyous endeavor - as I actually have real work to do. [​IMG]
     
  10. kalra2411

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    I fail to understand you, you expect me to prove myself to you? Do you think that I even give the smallest amount of regard, as to whether you think I am Lakshmi Mittal?

    Case in hand guvner, please, if you have the audacity to argue with me, at least keep to a specific point; her forth is what you are saying:

    "You are a crap manager, but you are not a manager, you are a janitor."

    Does it make any sense? No. Stick to the point, either you are criticizing my management ability, or you doubt my existence. If indeed it is the latter, I have great pity upon both you and your life. What is a business without trust? If there is no trust, there is no business.

    I do however, have a great deal of disturbance when, someone, does indeed criticize a well-endowed company.

    However, I am open to your comment, regarding my management style - if you even have one, (it seems you are more concerned with mud slinging). I agree I am not the most educated person in the world. However, I can tell you that my methods are the pre-eminent. They are both means tested, and applied to situations, which is indeed rare these days. Thus, I am apprehensive when adopting bookish theories - take one look at the fall of the Thapars, or Richard Green (albeit the fact that he has remade himself). Both caused by thinking like yours, nothing is applied, everything is assumed. Assumption leads to failure, there is no doubt of it.

    Please note, and take this very seriously, If anyone doubts my integrity (as to being Mittal) I will have no reason to reply to them. As their thinking is but immature; as there is no reason to doubt, perhaps it is jealousy, I do not know - but please do not speak to me if you think I am not Lakshmi Mittal
     
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  11. kalra2411

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    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    The whole meeting is in hysterics, I have printed what you said off in size 42 font, and stuck it on my office door. I will cherish the memory, that someone said that to me forever and ever.
     
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    I think you should wear a suit but forgo the tie. My guess is that your international managers will be similarly attired.

    As you said, it's too late to let people know what is appropriate. If you sense some employees are uncomfortable due to your semi-formal dress, take off your jacket and carry it on your arm.
     
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    Sorry going for dinner now, but I just though I would tell you, the whole office is almost crying with laughter.
     
  14. montecristo#4

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    Kalra, from the original post (as if the title weren't enough), you asked:

    "In addition, do you think I should dress differently?"

    My answer is yes and I suggested a good, flexible option.

    Normally, I wouldn't really give a damn about people's silly internet fantasies, but since you've managed to annoy me now with your curt response to my good advice (offered with the best intentions), I'll have to agree with the skeptics that believe you are not who you claim to be. How do I know this with a high degree of certainty? Because a while back, you published a picture of an item of clothing located in what you claimed was your bedroom. The room clearly had wall-to-wall carpeting. Wall-to-wall carpeting is really a pretty low class, low-quality flooring option. It wouldn't be found in ANY building of higher-end construction or recent renovation. And certainly not in the master bedroom, of all places.

    Regards,
    Montecristo
     
  15. kalra2411

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    (kalra2411 @ 05 Aug. 2004, 4:48) I personally will be wearing a black and white dress shirt, and black trousers. However, I am unsure what others will be wearing. Thus, I need suggestions as to what you think the employees will wear. In addition, do you think I should dress differently? I would not like to cause embarrassment to any employee, e.g. one who turns up in jeans, when everyone else is wearing semi-formal wears, as it would indeed be my fault, due to a lack of given information.
    I think you should wear a suit but forgo the tie. My guess is that your international managers will be similarly attired. As you said, it's too late to let people know what is appropriate. If you sense some employees are uncomfortable due to your semi-formal dress, take off your jacket and carry it on your arm.
    Thank you for the help, but unfortunately the meeting is now over, well the bulk of it. I wore, as I said a dress shirt and trousers. There was no problem, everyone else wore the same, or perhaps a jacket as well, but they were removed, because of the heat.
     
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    How was I offensive to you, I appreciated your advice, anyway, that was, as I said my apartment in Mayfair a building (Grade II Listed) from circa 1860.

    I was merely telling you that I was not really asking what I should wear, but more so what I should do to ensure uniformity amongst colleagues.
    .
     
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    Unrelated, but what else would one have?
     
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    did you ever wonder if people are laughing with you, or at you...probably not, just thought i'd float the idea though. a man of your position is best to be circumspect. remember, it's not paranoia if they really are out to get you. /andrew <- is afraid noone is out to get him
     
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    (faustian bargain @ 06 Aug. 2004, 6:16) Quote the whole office is almost crying with laughter.
    did you ever wonder if people are laughing with you, or at you...probably not, just thought i'd float the idea though. a man of your position is best to be circumspect. remember, it's not paranoia if they really are out to get you. /andrew I do not know if that was offense or what? Anyway, I do know that we are all laughing together at this person who thinks I am a janitor.
    Actually, from your avatar you look like one of the bellhops from the hotels I stay at while in NYC. If anyone ever worndered how Kalra has so many posts (Over 700) the answer is that on every thread he is involved in there are about 40 Kalra posts. (someone should be shorting LM's companies and making alot of money) In the inimitable words of Kermit De Frog...It aint easy being green. CM
     

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