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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by j, Jul 1, 2005.

  1. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    I found these shoes at a thrift shop. They are not perfect, but they are in great shape. Who made them? I thought maybe E. Green because they are marked "8D 202" inside. See pics: [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Made in England exclusively for Nordstrom (80s Nordstrom logo): [​IMG] Nails in heel: [​IMG]
     
  2. zjpj83

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    Edward Green, 202 last
     
  3. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    Excellent... thanks zj. Guess I beat Slim by about 29 bucks. [​IMG]
     
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    Way too conservative for my tastes... but that's damn cheap for a top shoe.
     
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    johnapril Senior member

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    Sweet shoe, j. Are you planning to antique it at all?
     
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    j Senior member Admin

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    They won't fit me or anyone I know AFAIK, so I guess I'll be selling them. They have a little ding in the toe and a couple of small scuffs, but overall they look great.
     
  7. AlanC

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    j, your thrift shoe finds are just sick. I've found some decent stuff at thrift/consignment, but never nice shoes (old worn out AEs and Alden at the best). *sigh*
     
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    j Senior member Admin

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    What's really sick is that I'd looked at these shoes before about a month ago, thought they looked nice, but I hate being in that store so much that I just left instead of waiting around for the angry clerk person to get the other one. It sucks now too, because now I have to keep going back to that store. This is the first thing I've bought there after going in about 10 or 12 times.
     
  9. zjpj83

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    Polish them up and put them on Ebay, they will definitely sell for at least a couple hundred, I'd say
     
  10. AlanC

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    Yeah, that's the reality of thrifting. I hit three stores on Wednesday and came away with nothing. But you find something just often enough to keep you coming back.
     
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    These are the oldest EG shoes I have ever seen. The number 3013 is a consecutive number (indicating orders or batches).  Prior to your shoes, I had never seen anything earlier than 5k. Currently the numbering is in the late 50s/early 60k. I don't know when they started the numbers, I suppose not in 1890; maybe when the late John Hlustik bought the company in 1981.

    The factory should be able to give you month and year of production.
     
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    Gorgeous find, J. I suppose that's a US 8 and not a UK 8.... [​IMG] Ahh, if it were a UK 8, I'd offer to relieve you of their burdon. The pain.
     
  13. j

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    Interesting, bengal-stripe. All I can say about the age is that the Nordstrom logo seen in the pic hasn't been used since the 80s. How would I contact the factory to ask? Their website(s) seem(s) to be down at the moment.

    Teacher (or someone), could you do me a favor and measure a UK 8 and tell me how big the sole is overall? I don't know if that will help, but they don't look small enough to be a US 8. Chances are they were marked at the factory, and thus with UK sizing. I don't really know how else to tell...
     
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    Since it's also marked "D" I would assume that it's an American size. Standard UK width would be "E", unless it's narrow, of course. I would think that like Brooks Peals or English made RL Polos that those would be sized for their target audience.
     
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    How much would you sell them to me for? Please MSG me.
     
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    So, what's the verdict on these shoes, J?
     
  17. j

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    The soles measure 11-9/16" long and 4" straight across, but 4-1/4" across the widest measurement (not sure how to do that properly). They seem to match up to your UK 8. As I said they have a couple of relatively minor flaws. I will post more pics soon to add to the shoe porn madness and show them a bit better. Maybe I'll dig out those McAfees and give them a proper showing in naturlaut's thread as well.

    Edit: actually, maybe they are a narrow size (UK D). Can someone explain how to measure a shoe's width? And what size, approximately, the sole of an EG 202 UK 8D would be? Thanks.
     
  18. Teacher

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    Frankly, there just isn't a great way to measure a SHOE. The measurements should be done on a last, which (of course) is inelastic. However, to get as close as you can without the last, measure the outer widest part of the upper across the creases (widest part) with a precision caliper and subtract about 1.5 or 2 mm to compensate for the thickness of the total upper.

    Stuck? Then just sell the shoes "as is" and worry about the rest later.
     
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    I will email EG after the forum move. (I already wrote the email, but I don't want to point them to a dead link.) They should be able to shed some light on decoding the markings and what size the shoes are.
     
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    Brilliant. It's so simple it's complex...or is it so complex it's simple?
     

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