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Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Stazy, Oct 22, 2006.

  1. AR_Six

    AR_Six Well-Known Member

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    ^They don't have a goalie, their d corps is middling, and they have no standout forward line - the top line is good, but isn't exactly great, and their best player just got there, so who knows how he'll play with a new team. The depth isn't full of plugs exactly, but it is mediocre. There's absolutely no scary part of that team. They are defined by 3 letters: "Meh".
     
  2. Stazy

    Stazy Well-Known Member

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    would anyone like to get a fantasy hockey league league started with members here? I was thinking of making it in Yahoo!
    I would be interested but I'm already in one. Don't really want to do another.
    The leafs are scary this year.
    They are the best team in the leaguing at breaking helmets during a fight. They are mediocre at every other level.
     
  3. AR_Six

    AR_Six Well-Known Member

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    That makes me wonder though, who actually IS scary this year? San Jose, with Heatley Thornton Setoguchi as a top line and Marleau and Clowe on the 2nd. But they have no depth on forward nor D. Maybe Chicago? Stacked at forward and a solid D corps, but no reliable goaltending. Calgary is fine until you get to the bottom half of the roster and realize they have weak depth forwards and only have 4 defensemen so if anyone gets hurt they're screwed... again. Detroit is the same Detroit as last year but minus Hossa and a year older. Same goes for Penguins, except the year older might actually be a good thing in their case. Philly, Ottawa, T-Bay and MTL look fine up front, but don't have reliable goaltending. I dunno, nobody really jumps off the page at me. Some of last year's good teams are still good but aren't signficantly better, and no one who wasn't contending has made a big splash.
     
  4. Vashin

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    ^They don't have a goalie, their d corps is middling, and they have no standout forward line - the top line is good, but isn't exactly great, and their best player just got there, so who knows how he'll play with a new team. The depth isn't full of plugs exactly, but it is mediocre. There's absolutely no scary part of that team. They are defined by 3 letters: "Meh".

    How can you say the leafs D-corps is middling... they're definitely up there and very competitive with the rest of the league.

    The top 4 pairings are like this:

    Kaberle - Komisarek
    Beauchemin - Schenn

    They still have
    Van ryn, Exelby, Ian white, frogen, finger

    The goaltending situation is still a big question mark but it's a good year for either Toskala or Gustavsson to step it up. The leafs team is very young but they are playoff contenders for sure, a 7th or 8th place finish is not out of the question.


    In the west watch out for the blues... they will be the next chicago. Young team with lots of potential.
     
  5. Stazy

    Stazy Well-Known Member

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    How can you say the leafs D-corps is middling... they're definitely up there and very competitive with the rest of the league.

    The top 4 pairings are like this:

    Kaberle - Komisarek
    Beauchemin - Schenn


    Kaberle: 4G, 27A, and -8 in 57 games last year
    Komisarek: 2G, 9A, and 0 in 66 gmaes last year
    Beauchemin: 4G, 1A, and -3 in 20 games last year
    Schenn: 2G, 12A, and -12 in 70 games last year

    With the exception of Kaberle's assist total, these stats paint the picture of average.
     
  6. Vashin

    Vashin Well-Known Member

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    You should know stats aren't everything... Komisarek and Schenn are stay at home defensemen. With last year being Schenn's FIRST YEAR in the NHL and having the responsibility to play against the #1 lines of all teams... he's got a great future. Ask any NHL expert and they would recognize Schenn's ability. Komisarek is a very strong physical Dmen that also plays vs #1 lines. He was never really the same for montreal after a fight with lucic but he is still recognized as one of the best defensive D in the game.

    Kaberle is great... soft hands with great vision and an amazing first pass. He was injured last year but he is one of the leafs most consistent performers getting 50+ points for most full seasons on very shitty leaf teams. Beauchemin is also very good, but his years in anaheim were playing behind the likes of pronger and niedermyer meaning he didn't get many chances to play on the pp.

    Just watch the leafs are gonna surprise a lot of you guys this year.
     
  7. KenN

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    Just watch the leafs are gonna surprise a lot of you guys this year.

    They might make the playoffs, but I don't see them going more than 1 or 2 rounds.
    The leafs might be physically tough to play against (e.g. Helmet rip), but they ain't going anywhere without consistent scoring.
     
  8. ryoneo

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    Just watch the leafs are gonna surprise a lot of you guys this year.

    If you say so.[​IMG]
     
  9. Vashin

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    KenN: That's why they are playoff contenders... not cup contenders. They have a good chance to make the playoffs, but that's about their limit at this point. btw they were 10th in scoring last year... it was their goaltending that killed the leafs. Hopefully toskala will rebound or gustavsson will be NHL ready. Ryoneo: hey we beat you guys twice so far in the pre-season... and we're tougher too. Philly-Toronto games will be so very fun to watch. check out the penalty summary: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore?gid=2009091921
     
  10. Mauby

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    Blackhawks, baby. I feel they're going to make it to the Cup this year. Though, I'm not confident they're going to win it.
     
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    ^ Their clock is ticking... after this season both Kane and Towes will be RFA and I don't see how they're gonna be able to re-sign both.
     
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    KenN: That's why they are playoff contenders... not cup contenders. They have a good chance to make the playoffs, but that's about their limit at this point. btw they were 10th in scoring last year... it was their goaltending that killed the leafs. Hopefully toskala will rebound or gustavsson will be NHL ready.

    Ryoneo: hey we beat you guys twice so far in the pre-season... and we're tougher too. Philly-Toronto games will be so very fun to watch. check out the penalty summary:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore?gid=2009091921


    I had no idea Jason Allison was still playing.
     
  13. Vashin

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    haha he's not really playing, he's trying out for the team. He probably won't make it since center is pretty deep for the leafs.
     
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    4 great games on deck for tonight, here's to the new season!

    I am especially pumped for tomorrow's NYR vs. Pens game.
     
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    omg. I can't believe I'm getting the Caps-Bruins game tonight (er, this afternoon)!
     
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    Van + Cal should be fun.

    I'm not really worried about the Leafs.

    Watch list - Penguins, Phil, Detroit, Calgary, Ducks
    I'm on the bubble with SJ, they choke so hard but I think with Heatley they can't go wrong.
    (SJ is better than Van IMO even before Heatley but choke choke choke)
     
  17. Vashin

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    GO LEAFS GO, will be AWESOME game since it's VS the habs...

    Leafs are not even close to competing for the cup + you're in the west so you will only see the leafs a few times during the year...

    The sharks will always do well in the regular season... the key is that they have marleau on the second line which should help a lot. Vancouver actually has a really solid team and luongo really wants to avenge that lost with the blackhawks.

    Philly, Boston, pittsburhg, washington will all be good in the east. CAN'T WAIT FOR SEASON TO START
     
  18. AR_Six

    AR_Six Well-Known Member

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    (SJ is better than Van IMO even before Heatley but choke choke choke)

    SJ is quite a bit better than Van offensively.
    Van is quite a bit better (and much deeper) than SJ defensively.
    Teams are about even when it comes to toughness / grit.
    Van is better than SJ in net, but Nabokov isn't too shabby.
    SJ's good players are choke artists. Van's star goalie choked in his last playoff appearance.

    I think we'll have to actually let the season play out to see who's better.
     
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    What's wrong with this thread?
     

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