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"I wear what I like"

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jiomitori, Apr 14, 2006.

  1. jiomitori

    jiomitori Senior member

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    I was just thinking about a statement I've read on style message boards and heard in conversations, "I don't wear what's in fashion, I wear what I like." Saying that you wear what you like as though this is an entirely individualized statement ignores the role society plays in what you like. You aren't born liking a pair of jeans, or with much of a disposition towards one type or another. Your taste is based in some way on a lifetime of interactions with your environment. Sure, some people's styles fall a little outside of the norm—or in cases even far outside of the norm—but these inclinations are just different reactions to the same standards that others adhere to.

    The few who are in the position to make this statement, "I wear what I like," tend to look down on those who wear Sevens or whatever else is the jean of the month, and their rationale is that these people are too concerned with what others are wearing. Yet, we spend significantly more time and more money to fit into a smaller category, which, while less prevalent, is in no way unique. If everyone on this board and superfuture met for a luncheon we would look like clones of one another.

    Sorry if this comes across as hostile, but I'm really having a hard time dealing with my interest in clothing right now, so if this is criticism it is mostly a criticism I have of myself. There are several issues brought up in this post so feel free to discuss any that interest you.
     
  2. denimdestroyedmylife

    denimdestroyedmylife Senior member

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    jiomitori Senior member

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    What is Superfuture?

    It's another message board that I think shares similar values to this streetwear and denim board, but I could be wrong about how related they are.
     
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    cheapmutha Senior member

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    man... i hope i dont look like one of those superfuture fucks... those guys are just hypebeasts and skinny norwegans.
     
  5. denimdestroyedmylife

    denimdestroyedmylife Senior member

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    So we say "I wear what I like" but we mean "I wear what ONLY I like" though the truth is that we wear what we want others to like but will stop liking it when others start liking it.

    I can relate.

    EDIT: to inform cheapmutha that we use punctuation here.
     
  6. montecristo#4

    montecristo#4 Senior member

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    man... i hope i dont look like one of those superfuture fucks... those guys are just hypebeasts and skinny norwegans.

    Is hypebeast another word for Japanese neo-hipster?

    I wear what Styleforum tells me to wear. [​IMG]
     
  7. jiomitori

    jiomitori Senior member

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    Don't get too hung up on the superfuture thing. The point is, this message board has its own values that are influenced by the people who read it, and those readers are in turn influenced by the message board itself in conjunction with external sources (which in some cases may be superfuture, or one of 1000 other style websites, or magazines, or television, magazines, washing machines, whatever).
     
  8. cheapmutha

    cheapmutha Senior member

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    sorry about the punctuation... i thought i was on supertalk
     
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    "This is what fashion sense really is - the ability to register and appreciate and remember the details of the way those around you look and dress, and then reinterpret those details and memories yourself" - Malcolm Gladwell 1997
     
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    i wear what i like. i use superfuture and styleofrum and lots of other things as refrences.
     
  11. denimdestroyedmylife

    denimdestroyedmylife Senior member

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    Hmmm... so you are saying that there is no LIKING independent of external influences. Agreed.
     
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    There's some truth to what you're saying, jiomitori. But I think that you might be overlooking the influence of age or exposure on people's style. Obviously everyone is influenced by other people's style, different subcultures, all that. But I think after a certain amount of exposure and experimentation, you start to develop a personalized style that is influenced by trends you've seen elsewhere, but still fairly unique. If someone's claiming they're never influenced by any trends and that everything that they do is 100% unique and individual, they're just lying, but that doesn't mean that they can't develop a personal aesthetic over time. And they should be honest about its influences.

    And you're totally right that someone who looks down on a popular trend just because it's popular is just as much a slave to trendiness as the people they look down on. I also can't stand people who don't understand that there are different aesthetic senses than just the one they hold--I get so tired of seeing people knock milspex's WDYWT pics over at the other SF just because they personally like skinny jeans and more fitted stuff. I don't dress like milspex and I'm probably never going to, but that doesn't mean that he's in some way *wrong* about the way he dresses, he just likes different shit than I do. It's all part of the same elitism, really.
     
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    well... when i see something that strikes me i will use it to my advantage. like the way something fits someone. but you have to just refrence it and not copy it to the letter, ya know. anyone can copy... to really stand out you have to take the things that are going to be in your mind from being exposed to them and make the details fit you. as an example: like i like dior, but wouldnt pay the price, so ill take the way it fits and try to incorparate it into something im wearing.
     
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    There's some truth to what you're saying, jiomitori. But I think that you might be overlooking the influence of age or exposure on people's style. Obviously everyone is influenced by other people's style, different subcultures, all that. But I think after a certain amount of exposure and experimentation, you start to develop a personalized style that is influenced by trends you've seen elsewhere, but still fairly unique. If someone's claiming they're never influenced by any trends and that everything that they do is 100% unique and individual, they're just lying, but that doesn't mean that they can't develop a personal aesthetic over time. And they should be honest about its influences.

    And you're totally right that someone who looks down on a popular trend just because it's popular is just as much a slave to trendiness as the people they look down on. I also can't stand people who don't understand that there are different aesthetic senses than just the one they hold--I get so tired of seeing people knock milspex's WDYWT pics over at the other SF just because they personally like skinny jeans and more fitted stuff. I don't dress like milspex and I'm probably never going to, but that doesn't mean that he's in some way *wrong* about the way he dresses, he just likes different shit than I do. It's all part of the same elitism, really.



    i love seeing milspex for that reason. he doesnt give a shit about what other people are doing, he knowd what he likes, and always looks good because he knows his style.
     
  15. Brian SD

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    I think even though a lot of SFers have some of the same clothing items, put is all in a room and you wont necessarily think we're wearing the same shit, because we wear it differently. Some people might have the same pair of jeans as me, but they wear them can't-button-them-up tight. On the other hand, in the same pair of jeans, I might wear them tightly (relatively speaking), to LA Guy, who only wears flares.
     
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    Is hypebeast another word for Japanese neo-hipster?

    ...


    Hypebeast

    1. Sneakerheads who only rock hyped up shit to get props b/c they got no self worth or sense of style.
    2. 50% of NikeTalk members

    1. Yo, check out my matching supreme cap, bape hoody, bape jeans, and bape kicks.
    2. You fuckin hypebeast.

    by brandoneezy Mar 21, 2005

    From urbandictionary.com
     
  17. rnrswitch

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    The funny thing about a lot of scenesters/hipsters is their/my pride in being an "individual" based on the music they/I listen to or the clothes they wear. We all think we are not influenced by mainstream culture and listen and wear what we want, but the second we see Brad Pitt or some other clown wearing our clothes, we start pulling the threads off of our back pocket stitching, like a lot of the folks are doing with Nudies, etc, but we are extremely influenced by mainstream culture. If we choose not to wear something because it is played out we are just indirectly/negatively influenced and are still allowing mainstream to affect our habits. True individuality comes not from the clothes we wear or the music we listen to, but rather our thought process, ideas we formulate and the way we choose to live our lives... and even then we are still a cog in a war machine (for us in the states and you folks in the UK).


    Not to mention a lot of this fashion crap is inherently elitist and I can't believe I have allowed myself to buy into it. But hey, I gots to look good.
     
  18. StevenRocks

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    Not to be a troll, but usually the words "I wear what i like" usually come from the badly dressed. regardless of style.

    As for me, I have individual choice, to be sure, but I'm influenced by what I read and see in the marketplace. Reading what y'all have to say has made a differnce in my wardrobe choices, though none of us dress excatly alike.
     
  19. nairb49

    nairb49 Senior member

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    It is very interesting to compare the two message boards, supertalk and styleforum.
    The styles/brands that circulate are for the most part quite similar (excluding the section involving BAPE etc.) but the people (at least in the "cyber" manner) are quite different save for the ones like me, who regularly visit both.

    I think the problem with the "I wear what I like" statement is that its too much of a blanket statement. Inevitably, if you're browsing/posting/lurking these forums, there's a reason and even if you hate the looks, you're subconsciously going to be influenced. I myself like to think that I have my own unique and individual style (as I'm sure you all do as well) and the reality is that we do, by taking bits and pieces from everyone and putting it all together.

    But its a bit presumptuous or perhaps naive(?) to state that what you wear is based strictly on what you see in the store and decide that YOU like, and not that you like the way it looked on someone else and think that you may be able to add your own individual flair to it.
    [​IMG]
     
  20. Brian SD

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    Not sure if they meant it to mean this, but I think Adult Swim's hyping for their short Saved by the Bell run has a really on point line, "You were never this cool. Nobody was."

    People use fake personas as goals to accomplish style and it adds to the cycle of trends. Individuals, no matter how unique they claim to be, are never immune to popular culture. Why do you want to dress like the musicians you listen to? So you can be just like Johnny Thunders, or whoever. That's just as conformist as wearing something because Brad Pitt does (or in the case of the group rnr brought up, NOT wearing something because Pitt does). It's just on a smaller scale, so compartively, you look cooler, hipper, more unique, whatever.

    It looks worse to imitate someone who's a tool though, so I'll choose Bob Dylan, Johnny Thunders, Iggy Pop, David Bowie, etc. to get style cues from.
     

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