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I think I hate San Francisco.

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by lefty, Nov 7, 2010.

  1. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'm not a hater. My analogy was exagerrated for effect.

    Having lived in and visited some of the most beautiful cities on earth, though, I find it silly that anyone would rank SF -- or any North American city -- among them.


    I don't see how you wouldn't. I've met lots of Parisians and Romans who positively love SF. They must be crazy, I guess.
     
  2. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    Look for increased levels of axe attacks in the next few months [​IMG]

    A recent acquisition...

    [​IMG]

    lefty
     
  3. vitaminc

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    My dad was born in San Jose, lived there until '65ish and spent his college years in SF and the East Bay, left in 1970 and I don't think he's been back since my brother was born in '75. I wonder what he'd think of the area now, particularly San Jose.

    I loved the time I've spent in the city and would move there in a heartbeat if it was feasible. I'd love to never really need a car again (aside from the odd ZipCar use), the weather is my ideal (even the rain), I could find a show or something interesting to do just about any night of the week, the food was outstanding even on the low end, people were no worse than Dallas (less, uh, bubbly as a rule). And I could buy top-shelf liquor behind the counter of convenience stores in the Tenderloin.

    OTOH, a week after I flew back home on the last trip, the counter guy at the pizza place I had eaten at several nights (on Van Ness) got stabbed by a crazy chick. San Francisco might be the hardest place in the world for me to get a concealed handgun license, and also the place I would most like to carry, I think.


    San Jose is now overrun by Indians. Driving in the residential areas after sunset will make you feel like being in Bangalore. So many Indians.

    Which one are you talking about? In the main library I've only found the bathroom smelling of urine. I would assume this is to be expected since its so close to the tenderloin and that its free for anyone to come in. Also my visit is hardly to take in the sights sounds and smells. I'm mainly talking about their selection of books.

    They all have the BARTxChinatown scent.

    Right, well, you will dismiss this as an appeal to authority, but Richard Henry Dana and Gaspar de Portola both described SF Bay as the finest spot for human habitation on earth. Some other luminary whose name I forget at the moment said the most beautiful places in the world were the Bay of Naples, the Bosporous, and SF Bay.

    The Ford Focus comment is assinine and just reveals you as a hater. My opinion was not meant to be gospel, merely opinion, but at least it is not absurd.

    SV is ugly, or most of it, but it has very nice pocket. It is also a lot less ugly, and a lot smaller, than the worst LA and AZ sprawl. Hilarious that you base all these judgements on hearsay. Go in person and see for yourself.


    LA is a fugly place to live. And if you hate night life, SV is not a bad place to be. All those small towns downtown areas are way better than LA.
     
  4. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I agree with the teleporter comment. LA = great place if no driving. I think some years ago when it was less crowded it would have been neat.
     
  5. holymadness

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    I don't see how you wouldn't. I've met lots of Parisians and Romans who positively love SF. They must be crazy, I guess.

    Everyone I know who has visited SF loves it, too.

    But I'm only discussing aesthetics. Getting a bit tiring now...
     
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    milosz Senior member

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    The idea that ambitious and smart means being an I-banker cunt or Web 2.0 douchebag is fucking retarded.
     
  7. lefty

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    Quite a bit worse than it should be because the PD is terrible and the politicians who give them orders are worse.
    Is it because the cops are too busy handing out parking tickets? On another note, I can't remember the last time I saw so much trash in an American city. The city is 7 square miles, how hard can it be to pick up the trash? Employ the crackheads. They seem to be everywhere. lefty
     
  8. itsstillmatt

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    I'm not a hater. My analogy was exagerrated for effect.

    Having lived in and visited some of the most beautiful cities on earth, though, I find it silly that anyone would rank SF -- or any North American city -- among them.

    I don't necessarily like what we have done with the city w/r/t planning and architecture, but I can't think of a city with a better natural setting than SF other than possibly Naples. Not that I would call Naples a beautiful city...
     
  9. FStyles

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    orly?


    Just got back from a four day "let's check the city out" trip in anticipation of our move in March. Couldn't wait to get home.

    In no particular order:

    Cabs, if you can find one, are filthy with drivers who have no idea where they are going.

    learn to ride the muni/bart. It'll change your life.....tourist.

    Homeless crack heads are insanely aggressive. I had to push a guy away from my wife. Next time I bring an axe.

    What business do you have on 6th street!? Do you need to go to the civic center everyday!?!?

    Waiters are way too chummy and have no idea how do do their job. Look, pal - you are not part of our conversation; don't touch me when telling me the specials; and don't remove an empty plate until we're all finished. I finally had to tell a waiter to leave the plate and he looked at me like I killed his puppy.

    you can go to an Outback steakhouse where you live. Do some research on where the locals go.


    There's garbage on the street.

    see two responses above


    The women look like men. Up close, ugly men.

    you didn't visit the marina, eh? Only so many times can the castro be amusing.

    The residents are like Stepford employees of the tourism board. "Oh, you'll love it here. Did you know you can ski in the morning and surf in the afternoon?" Look closely in their eyes, however, and what you see is a tinge of fear. As if they are trapped in the Billy Mumy Twilight Zone episode.

    hahahah ...fucker. [​IMG]

    I met up with an ex-New Yorker and asked him why the fuck everyone was so nice. He replied, "It's nice to be nice." Fuck me.

    you'll learn.



    I was blindsided by one line in a contract and am now royally fucked.

    I'd stay put if I were you. I've seen this city overtaken by wonky transplants for 25 years. Its become a self fullfilling prophecy in that the the same peiople who complain about all the yuppies, gays, and liberals all come here and become more prius-y, liberal and bi-sexual than any san franciscan who's been here for more than 10 years.


    lefty



    and PS: I and all of my friends refer tot he city as Frisco. I think you're info is a generation too late.
     
  10. TACO_FLAVORED_KISSES

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    If San Francisco is truly as bad as some of you say, then I've vastly understated the mediocrity and unpleasantness of this country. Good Song BTW
     
  11. TRINI

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    Fuck - should I cross SF off of my American cities to visit list?
     
  12. willpower

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    Every chick in San Fran is a 6 who thinks she's a 9. All the hill climbing creates big calves - good for Johnny Drama, bad for the female figure. Regardless of where you live, the important bit is the relationships you make and the friends you have.
    Fuck - should I cross SF off of my American cities to visit list?
    To the contrary. It's very unique. Perhaps the most scenic US city. Bring a jacket and comfortable shoes - there's an almost constant wind off the ocean and the hills will blister you if you're not wearing something well worn in and easy on the feet.
     
  13. Bradford

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    Every chick in San Fran is a 6 who thinks she's a 9.

    This is so true.
     
  14. FStyles

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    Just to add: when i find someone attempting to give a good SF bashing, they're usually from either NY or western EU.

    Both seems to go to places with a chip on their shoulders looking to pit their own city against SF, despite the fact that SF is not NY or Paris.

    I for one actually like the gritty aspects of frisco. How I can go from sleepy Forest Hill to visit my folks and then jam down market downtown in not-so-bad of traffic to union square and shop like an urbaniite, and then hop over to the tenderloin to grab a bowl of ghetto Pho and a viet sandwich, all while travellin g atotal of 4 miles.
     
  15. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Just to add: when i find someone attempting to give a good SF bashing, they're usually from either NY or western EU. Both seems to go to places with a chip on their shoulders looking to pit their own city against SF, despite the fact that SF is not NY or Paris. I for one actually like the gritty aspects of frisco. How I can go from sleepy Forest Hill to visit my folks and then jam down market downtown in not-so-bad of traffic to union square and shop like an urbaniite, and then hop over to the tenderloin to grab a bowl of ghetto Pho and a viet sandwich, all while travellin g atotal of 4 miles.
    Is Forest Hill actually part of San Francisco? I never knew that.
     
  16. Mr Herbert

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    I don't necessarily like what we have done with the city w/r/t planning and architecture, but I can't think of a city with a better natural setting than SF other than possibly Naples. Not that I would call Naples a beautiful city...

    Sydney.

    Actually very similar to SF in many ways, just much nicer beaches, better weather and the harbour beats the bay.

    Shame about the locals.
     
  17. FStyles

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    Is Forest Hill actually part of San Francisco? I never knew that.

    wait are you serious? I can't tell the sarcasm of members with over 10,000 posts.
     
  18. mordecai

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    Just to add: when i find someone attempting to give a good SF bashing, they're usually from either NY or western EU.


    really? i usually find that the biggest SF bashers are former or even current residents of the city. most Europeans that i know love it.
     
  19. softy

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    In light of the absolute unsuitability of the cities discussed above, I'm beginning to think we should terraform a small island with a utopian vision, populate it with only SF's finest peacocks, and see how long it lasts until we end up killing each other Battle Royale style. Or maybe it would become a successful enclave of peace-loving men who enjoy fine shopping and dining. We could ban the import and sale of UGGs, for starters. Further reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Minerva http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand
     
  20. LabelKing

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    I have never ridden MUNI in my life.
     

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