I think I hate San Francisco.

[itsstillmatt]



I'm not suggesting that you're bringing these things on yourself, lefty, but you seem to have a knack for getting the worst of everything here. Other than Muni drivers, I find most people in the city to be friendly and reasonably civilized.

I remember when my wife was running a neighborhood center and one of the parents borrowed the Muni she drove to go watch her kids basketball game. And by kids, I mean the ones that the state had taken from her while the city still allowed her to drive people around.

 

[lefty]

Btw, who's going to be the next mayor?

lefty

 

[Parker]

How can you still hate SF after that?! ;-)

 

[lefty]

It's pretty toe-tappy.

lefty

 

[sugarbutch]

I'm not suggesting that you're bringing these things on yourself, lefty, but you seem to have a knack for getting the worst of everything here. Other than Muni drivers, I find most people in the city to be friendly and reasonably civilized.

I remember when my wife was running a neighborhood center and one of the parents borrowed the Muni she drove to go watch her kids basketball game. And by kids, I mean the ones that the state had taken from her while the city still allowed her to drive people around.

Yeah, that seems about par for the Muni course. I'm pro-labor by default, but that group of workers has exhausted my empathy and now I would be happy to see the city clean house.

How can you still hate SF after that?!  ;-)

I was thinking that it could go either way. Fortunately, lefty seems to have enjoyed it.

 

[lefty]

I have been to this event and have to admit (grudgingly) that it is pretty cool.

Lost Landscapes of San Francisco

It's hard to believe that Lost Landscapes has developed a six-year-history of its own, but indeed it has. Thanks to our sponsor Long Now Foundation, we're moving this year to the Castro Theatre, San Francisco's own movie palace, where I'll be presenting a show jam-packed with uncommonly exciting discoveries. (See below.)

As I think most of you know, Lost Landscapes of San Francisco is a feature-length program of archival film clips drawn from home movies, amateur footage, studio outtakes and industrial films, showing the City as it was. While the allure of vanished San Francisco is a big part of the show, it also aims to get us thinking about our city's future: what can these images of the past tell us about the kind of city we'd like to live in?

Coming up this year, among many other things:

-- Color and B&W footage of San Francisco's cemeteries just before their removal

-- Unique drive-through footage of San Francisco's Produce Market in the 1940s (now Embarcadero Center and Golden Gateway)

-- Cruising the newly-built Embarcadero Freeway

-- Grungy back streets in working-class North Beach

-- New film showing the sandswept Sunset in the late 1930s, before its dunes were covered with homes

-- Wild automobile rides through downtown in the 1920s

-- Newly-rediscovered Cinemascope footage of Playland, the Sky Tram, and other parts of San Francisco, all in bright Kodachrome

And I'm delighted to announce that this will be the first-ever show in HD.

PLACE AND TIME: Castro Theatre, Thursday, December 8, 7:30 (doors 6:30).

TICKETS: Buy tickets here. IMPORTANT: These shows have a way of selling out quickly. The Castro's a big, beautiful room, but I'd advise ordering tickets right now.

TICKET LINK AND FURTHER INFORMATION:

http://lostlandscapes.eventbrite.com/

Look forward to seeing you!​

lefty

 

[binge]

Thanks for posting that Lefty...it's a great show and I encourage everyone in the Bay Area to attend. Git yur tickets before they're all gone.

 

[sugarbutch]

The missus has a friend in town that week, and I'm encouraging her to go for a girls' night out.

 

[lovetodance]

You were smart to visit first. I wish I had. I didn't see the city until I drove here to join my spouse and I have been miserable ever since. I couldn't agree with you more that the women look like men, (funny as hell). I say that all the time. I've never seen people work so hard at being unattractive. No make-up, hair that hasn't seen a brush since.....well ever! Oh and the drivers!! Seriously, who issues licenses at the DMV? There can't be test. Just drving 5 blocks can get you killed. It's like they have their eyes closed. There are hundreds of bars, but no place to dance. I was told the Marina was the nice area, NOT. A bunch of drunken people making an attempt at being posh. The girls can't hold their liquor and their fashion looks like they were raised in trailer parks. I've never seen so many cheap shoes. They are one step away from being hookers. No one can control the weather, but it's always fall here. Why are the homeless masses so close to the tourists? Dumbest thing ever! Even NYC and Chicago knew to move the homeless away from visitors. The tenderloin is what visitors see when they visit this place. Its not an ugly town, just boring. Its a small town attempting to be a big city, but there are no big city attractions so it's confusing. No place to go if you're all dressed up. We tried dressing up, but when we got to our destination, of course some people were there in jeans and tee's. If I see one more hairy hippy I'll just spit! Lets move on, the 70's have ended. People are friendly and thats a plus, but everyone is pale and looks like they are stoned...(probably are since its ok to smoke anywhere here). Not a fan of substances, so blow your smoke elsewhere! I'm sure this town works for those who are not fashion seekers looking for excitement, but for me, when this contract ends and I can get the hell out of this Stepford Wives movie, I'll never come back-not for any amount of money!

 

[LawrenceMD]

I just got back from San Francisco. I'm always shocked at the how bad the

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

(ahem - new immigrant/AZN women)

local drivers are.

Its most prevalent when you're at a shopping center parking lot. Total clusterfuck of people just stopping suddenly (to let people out/load people in at their leisure), blind pull outs from parking spots and reverse turning into near accidents constantly, and my personal favorite: the drive in the middle of the two lane-d way looking confused while almost hitting pedestrians and other cars.

 

[sugarbutch]

How do you determine that a driver is a recent immigrant?

 

[LawrenceMD]



How do you determine that a driver is a recent immigrant?

you can tell... by the language they are mouthing... while driving into the other lane absentmindedly.

my mother is probably the worst driver ever. (azn+immigrant+large expensive car) always elicited the most enraged responses from New England drivers (the MassHoles were the angriest). My brother and I would sit in horror while she did things like drive 45mph on the left lane of the Mass Turn Pike, swerve 3 lanes from the left into an exit, and scrape/bump other cars trying to park.

There is an upside to being a child of a bad AZN woman driver though... from my experience the progeny learn from thy parents mistakes and end up patient good drivers.

San Francisco is full of drivers like my mother x100,000 - my mother though is a local legend in the New England Tristate Area due to her horrific driving.

 

[Big Bird]

This thread is doing a great job promoting the city.

I have been presented with an offer to relocate to San Francisco for work. It would be a 2+1 year deal. I am somewhat hesitant since we got two kids (3+7 yo). My wife is a freelance journalist/writer so she would not have any problems finding work. I have been to SF a dozen times and my experience has so far been great, even if I can understand where Lefty is coming from.

I would like to get some tips on great neighborhoods to look for housing in. We would be looking for a 3+ bedroom furnished house or apartment in a child friendly area. Budget is USD 6-7,000/month.

We have friends in Belvedere but even though it looks like a great neighborhood the commute seems a little bit too long.

Priorities are:
- Quick commute to the office (Pine St/Fremont St)
- Child friendly and safe area
- Great (international) schools near by

Any tips are most welcome.

 

[HORNS]



you can tell... by the language they are mouthing... while driving into the other lane absentmindedly.
my mother is probably the worst driver ever. (azn+immigrant+large expensive car) always elicited the most enraged responses from New England drivers (the MassHoles were the angriest). My brother and I would sit in horror while she did things like drive 45mph on the left lane of the Mass Turn Pike, swerve 3 lanes from the left into an exit, and scrape/bump other cars trying to park.
There is an upside to being a child of a bad AZN woman driver though... from my experience the progeny learn from thy parents mistakes and end up patient good drivers.
San Francisco is full of drivers like my mother x100,000 - my mother though is a local legend in the New England Tristate Area due to her horrific driving.

This is true.

 

[lefty]

Quote:

This thread is doing a great job promoting the city.
I have been presented with an offer to relocate to San Francisco for work. It would be a 2+1 year deal. I am somewhat hesitant since we got two kids (3+7 yo). My wife is a freelance journalist/writer so she would not have any problems finding work. I have been to SF a dozen times and my experience has so far been great, even if I can understand where Lefty is coming from.
I would like to get some tips on great neighborhoods to look for housing in. We would be looking for a 3+ bedroom furnished house or apartment in a child friendly area. Budget is USD 6-7,000/month.
We have friends in Belvedere but even though it looks like a great neighborhood the commute seems a little bit too long.
Priorities are:
- Quick commute to the office (Pine St/Fremont St)
- Child friendly and safe area
- Great (international) schools near by
Any tips are most welcome.

A furnished house may be a challenge, but at that price point you should be able to get a decent place in Pacific Heights, which may be the closest neighbourhood in tone to London and Stockholm. Easy commute to downtown, safe, and near a number of high streets - Fillmore, Laurel Heights, Union St. Russian Hill could also work. If you're feeling a little adventurous, I like the area where Duboce/Castro/Eureka Valley meet as it provides easy access to a number of interesting neighbourhoods and is a simple shot down Market to the financial area. The area between Divisidero and Buena Vista Park is quite nice.

Have your employer hire a relocation agent as searching on craigslist (the only place to find apt listings in SF) will drive you crazy.

lefty