(zjpj83 @ May 12 2005,13:52) on the cars thread, page 35 Ernest: Porsche Car who don't need gas, tires, oil, park place or driver = subway Isn't that a Â contradiction in terms? Jon. Not at all. I picked up my car 4 years ago when i was young and naive. Now i am fed up with cars. I have never liked driving more than 30 minutes in a row. Add to this the nonestop car jams in Paris and the price of gas (around 1.1 euros per liter). And i must make a technical control, to be allowed to drive (every 2 years), which i didn't make. So i don't use my car for all these reasons.