I must have this painting! [aka can you ID it please]

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  1. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    OMG Fuuma THANK YOU!!! That is the exact same picture just cut off. Honestly I think I will also frame it like in the screenshot, but huge thanks!
    It's a series. Not that it matters as you'll be surprised by the price... You could try to score one of the beach towels with the very image you want printed on it and hang it on your wall. Originally made by Target.
     


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    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    Another dude you might like who sells print for cheap, fits the 70s porno indolence of the pre-aids, when sex was beautiful era, I assume you're going for:

    http://www.artworkbysteve.co.uk/
     


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    likeitaloud Senior member

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    What do you mean it's a series? Like there are a few versions of it? I wouldn't really expect a gallery in new york not to be expansive but so far I haven't acually found a single place online that either sells it or has a price. How much do you think it would cost? It is just a print so..yea.
     


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    I like the work of the other guy but it's a bit too agressive for me.
     


  5. unpainted huffheinz

    unpainted huffheinz Senior member

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    Can you please record and post your conversation with the Gagosian people? Actually, call them and ask for Larry.
     


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    likeitaloud Senior member

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    Who's Larry?
     


  7. unpainted huffheinz

    unpainted huffheinz Senior member

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    Who's Larry?

    Larry Gagosian is a heavy weight in the contemporary art world. There is little to no chance the staff would connect you to him especially if you said you wanted to buy a piece because you saw it on a teen soap opera. Now is a good time to buy such a piece as the price might have dropped a few tens of thousands of dollars, if last week at Basel Miami is any indication.
     


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    The painting titled "Scout" was inspired by a hard-core pornographic photo where the model was cross-dressed in a Boy Scouts of America uniform to address young men's sexual fantasies. The objective to show sexually deviant behaviour of what looks to be a minor (under eighteen and relating to Harrison's sexual transgressions) proposes a different image of love apart from the Madonna/Mary coke-whore icon of "Lvel..." and the two young men of "The General". "Scout"'s projection of male fantasy by men for men removes the sense of participation in a relationship with both the physical image of the girl, isolated in a totally black space, and with the vague reflection of her own masturbation in the circa-1973 sunglasses.
    Best regards,
    Richard
    http://www.whitecube.com/artists/phillips/texts/126/



    "Male fantasy by men for men." This piece disgusts me. Cross-dressing a woman in a (quasi-)BSA uniform seems to evince a confusion between homo-pedophilic interests and heterosexual expectations more than anything IMO. That being said, I like artwork that makes your guests say, "What is wrong with you?"
     


  9. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    Larry Gagosian is a heavy weight in the contemporary art world. There is little to no chance the staff would connect you to him especially if you said you wanted to buy a piece because you saw it on a teen soap opera. Now is a good time to buy such a piece as the price might have dropped a few tens of thousands of dollars, if last week at Basel Miami is any indication.

    It's the artpocalypse my friend.
     


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    Can someone please explain how such a replica is obtained? I've never bought anything like that is the copy printed on high quality photo paper and than put into an expansive frame to give it a solid look? Or do galleries somehow print it onto the wood and sell it already framed and ready? How much would something like this cost? (ballpark if you could)
     


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    unpainted huffheinz Senior member

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    It's the artpocalypse my friend.

    I just left the biz this week, so I could give a flying fuck if Larry or his pals have a bad year.
     


  12. unpainted huffheinz

    unpainted huffheinz Senior member

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    Can someone please explain how such a replica is obtained? I've never bought anything like that is the copy printed on high quality photo paper and than put into an expansive frame to give it a solid look? Or do galleries somehow print it onto the wood and sell it already framed and ready? How much would something like this cost? (ballpark if you could)

    It is unusual to have a cropped and enlarged copy made, but given the subject matter and client it makes some sense. I don't know any artists who would ever agree to such a thing, and I have worked with a few at the level of Phillips. Also, contemporary artists do not usually do prints or lesser priced editions as it dilutes the value of the original work. They do engage in crass marketing efforts quite often though which explains what you saw on this TV show. Your cheapest bet is to find a capable painter to knock off the work at a reasonable price.
     


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    It is unusual to have a cropped and enlarged copy made, but given the subject matter and client it makes some sense. I don't know any artists who would ever agree to such a thing, and I have worked with a few at the level of Phillips. Also, contemporary artists do not usually do prints or lesser priced editions as it dilutes the value of the original work. They do engage in crass marketing efforts quite often though which explains what you saw on this TV show. Your cheapest bet is to find a capable painter to knock off the work at a reasonable price.

    So would Phillips just not sell prints? Is that your point, he would rather paint another copy by demand? I could probably print it off in the size I want, but I wouldn't be able to find the large enough resolution file anyway. So hypothetically speaking, how did the character on the tv show get his(if it were in real life)? Contacted the artist and ordered him to paint another copy?
     


  14. unpainted huffheinz

    unpainted huffheinz Senior member

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    So would Phillips just not sell prints? Is that your point, he would rather paint another copy by demand? I could probably print it off in the size I want, but I wouldn't be able to find the large enough resolution file anyway. So hypothetically speaking, how did the character on the tv show get his(if it were in real life)? Contacted the artist and ordered him to paint another copy?

    It looks like the image used in the TV show is based on a record cover:

    http://www.perfectbeat.com/product_i...d=724355118806

    You could get repro rights of a photo of the painting easier than getting a 1:1 print of the original. The problem with a print or knock off of the painting is that it serves the same purpose as the original work thus diluting the piece and market for it, while the record cover does not do that.

    I think it would be fairly unlikely that Phillips would paint another one even for a few hundred grand.
     


  15. milosz

    milosz Senior member

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    The character in the show's mommy and daddy would have purchased the actual painting for him.
     


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