great.... that just makes things harder.. how do i know which brands do it and which dont? and i guess that applies to the inseam too? although i dont' know why they'd do that.. i really dont' need to think i have longer legs then i do. i'll take a better look at that site but unfortunatly from what i've seen just about everthign on there is skinny and tapered.. not really the look i'm going for. tall guys in skinny tapered jeans is not really my thing. was looking more for a straight leg/bootcut. i'll look again though. any suggestions? thanks for your help btw.. there's very little on the web that i've been able to find that is helpful. most sites try to steer me towards "big and tall" stores Yeah, I think usually inseams are fairly accurate. Not sure why it wouldn't be. I don't know about bootcuts, but both Blue in Green and Self Edge def have non-skinny straight leg fits. Look at the measurements or ask self edge; they are very helpful. But if you don't know what you even want I'd maybe just save the $ and buy something cheaper.