I think part of my problem is I took a friend along for an "unbiased" opinion, but sadly, his favorite that I tried on was a pair of Pure Blue Japans that in my mind were entirely too slim. Talking this out a bit here and letting the fact that the friend I took leans entirely too far towards the skinny jean percolate a bit is leaving me leaning towards the Onis. I want a classic straight leg jean rather than something that's going to look stylish now and not a year from now. The Onis fit was awesome in the waist and rise. I personally had no real issue with the leg width. The texture of the denim was awesome. Thanks again for the response. The back and forth on this is getting me clearer on what it is I want exactly. My denim buying has definitely leaned towards the super-slim for a while too, and I'm finally letting that go, in favor of more classic slim fits. For exactly the same reasons. I'll listen to others opinions to a point, for better or worse. Then I know I have to trust my gut, which is slightly more conservative. I just don't like investing time and money into jeans I'm dissatisfied with in six months. Some BiG jeans you may like that I've recently decided have become my favorites are the Warehouse DWorks 660s, Skull 5507, Momotaro 0701. Try them if they're in stock. Also have the Samurai S003 Yamato limited ed. which are beyond amazing. Try them on if they have them in your size. Slim, but relaxed enough.