Samurai S510 24oz size 31 Did a hot soak (hot water from the tap + 2 pots of boiling water) for about 90 minutes. When they dried, waist was about 15", inseam was 34.75" - not much shrinkage there, so decided to do a hot wash (hang dry). Post soak/hot wash: waist - 14.5" inseam - 34.75" (didn't shrink any more) Oddly, they seem to have shrunk a normal amount horizontally, but only about half what I'd expect vertically. I'd be interested to hear if others had a similar experience. This is actually an easy one to answer from direct experience (which I just verified this week on two new pair - one pair were Sams): You need three hot soaks on some jeans. I had both pair hemmed by BiG to shrink to 31" after full shrink. I scalding hot soak (always), and hang dry. After first hot soak, jeans were about 32". After they dried, second hot soak - inseam was stll about 32", but all lateral shrink was done. Let dry again (even did 10 minute machine dry while they were still a little damp) and wore them each for two days. Third hot soak/hang dry yesterday - immediately, both shrunk another inch to target 31". Am happy. So, draw your own conclusions...mine are that the denim needs to stretch a bit and 'settle' by being worn before the fibers will finally knit into the fully-shrunk state they'll reach. Try another hot soak. Those look good on you. Where in Philly are ya, brother? I'm an east falls/g-town kid myself.