Just because denim isn't selvedge does not mean that it's bad denim (and they actually have 2 raw selvedge jeans), and I said the raw denim isn't spectacular. The waxed denim is unequaled by any though, and that's why most people buy DH jeans, I don't know of anyone but you who would pay the premium for the scar. And the indigo raws fade in a normal time frame whereas the black raws are notoriously hard to fade, harder than many other brands Selvedge or not, it's just not very good considering you're paying $300+. The scar isn't the ONLY reason to buy it- it's just another factor along with everything else I listed. I was referring specifically to the indigo- not that many people try to fade out black jeans they way they do blue ones.