If you sized down three on your NS then you're a 32. I have no idea how you think you're going to size down 4 (or hell, 2) in another brand that isn't vanity sized to get a "relaxed" look. You can easily size down one with Academi and I probably should have done the same. You could probably go down two but I'd be iffy about it for a few reasons, one being that I'm not sure how it'd fit compared to Context's model and another that the hardware around the fly doesn't seem to like it when you add a lot of strain to it. I'll be honest: from the look of Context's pic, they must have sized down at least one for that fit. It doesn't even look remotely relaxed. Context's measurements has Academi size 30's with a waist of 32, and with the way my NS stretched (went from about a 31 to almost 34 now which is almost looser than I would like) I'm afraid of getting something that's going to stretch too much. If these really aren't vanity sized than you're right, but from those measurements they definitely seem to be.