I have a jean...(The Ultimate Jean Thread For Beginners) - ask questions here.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by whodini, Jan 28, 2008.

  1. raven37457

    raven37457 Senior member

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    I am contemplating what my next pair of denim should be or if should I even purchase another pair. Any suggestions? Here is what I have:

    Paper Denim Cloth - 2 pairs which I hardly ever use (Vogel and Eternal)
    Loomstate - 6 pairs I use 2 pairs with tags (3 Genus, Channel, Mission)
    Yanuk - 2 pairs
    Corpus - 1 black (Slim B)
    Habitual - 2 pairs (chambray and khaki from gilt)
    Crate - 2 pairs (Sally's and Hamiltons)
     
  2. Our_Benefactors

    Our_Benefactors Well-Known Member

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    I've been thinking of taking the plunge into raw denim...my only concern is that if I'm going to be wearing something pretty much every day while breaking them in, I want them to fit and be comfortable. I have "athletic thighs" and want a cut that fits comfortably in the seat and thighs. Also, I find a bootcut seems to work well on my body type (balances out the size of the thighs) or a straight leg can work for me...anything skinny or tapered is right out.

    I know the A.P.C. Rescue is advertised as being cut for "athletic thighs" but I'm not too fond of what I've seen of the way they fade. What other jeans would be suitable for my body type? I've been eyeing the 5EP lowdown boot, would those fit ok?

    Here are my measurements:

    True waist: 33"
    "jeans" waist (lower on hips): 35"
    seat/hips/ass: 38"
    Thighs: 24-25"

    (those waist measurements were a little surprising to me as most of my best fitting jeans are tagged 30-31")


    Average Joe Dry Heavy. Really nice fit, super dark, fades slowly, and isn't prone to the normal crotch blowouts that Nudie is infamous for.
     
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    aqhong Senior member

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    I am contemplating what my next pair of denim should be or if should I even purchase another pair. Any suggestions? Here is what I have: Paper Denim Cloth - 2 pairs which I hardly ever use (Vogel and Eternal) Loomstate - 6 pairs I use 2 pairs with tags (3 Genus, Channel, Mission) Yanuk - 2 pairs Corpus - 1 black (Slim B) Habitual - 2 pairs (chambray and khaki from gilt) Crate - 2 pairs (Sally's and Hamiltons)
    Why are you looking to purchase another pair? If it's because you have too much money, I'd gladly take it off your hands.
     
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    Seriously. Fade the hell out of the Sally and Hamilton, then get back to us.
     
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    Why are you looking to purchase another pair? If it's because you have too much money, I'd gladly take it off your hands.
    Well I have just become aware of A.P.C., Nudie, RRL, etc. and thought another pair would not hurt. Also, I am not crazy about the fit of the PDC's and a couple of Loomstate I have. Also, the Hamilton's are too big as well. I could go to the tailor... Just wondering what you guys thought.
     
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    ConcernedParent Senior member

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    Will the APC's fade even without washing? I like the look of the dark color, but don't want to lose it.

    Yes, but it will take months of hard hard wear to actually get the entire jean to fade. You'll get fading on the ass area, thigh/knee area, honeycomcbs area generally, the rest will remain a deep indigo (it will be less shiny though).
     
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    I have a pair of KMW 1980s that came in raw. I've been wearing them for maybe 2 weeks without a soak. My understanding is/was that they are sanfordized so they don't require a soak. They've stretched a bit and I would like them to fit a bit better in the seat. Should I soak these? Someone knowledgable suggested that I should've soaked them from the beginning, but I was hoping for a second opinion and/or third opinion.

    thanks
     
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    I have a pair of KMW 1980s that came in raw. I've been wearing them for maybe 2 weeks without a soak. My understanding is/was that they are sanfordized so they don't require a soak. They've stretched a bit and I would like them to fit a bit better in the seat. Should I soak these? Someone knowledgable suggested that I should've soaked them from the beginning, but I was hoping for a second opinion and/or third opinion. thanks
    sanforized doesn't mean it won't shrink, only that it will shrink less. how much less is dependent on the level of treatment and the type of denim. and it's only steam so it probably will still shrink some. It's also useful for getting rid of some of the factory starch, and if you keep the water below 68 degrees farenheit, the indigo won't dissolve in it as indigo is insoluble in water at 68 degrees(some may fall off however, but don't wory)
     
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    seems unlikely to shrink if the water is only 68 degrees, no?
     
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    Well I have just become aware of A.P.C., Nudie, RRL, etc. and thought another pair would not hurt. Also, I am not crazy about the fit of the PDC's and a couple of Loomstate I have. Also, the Hamilton's are too big as well. I could go to the tailor... Just wondering what you guys thought.

    Quality wise, I'd say Crate is at least on par with APC or Nudies, so if you're looking to expand, you might want to look at higher end, albeit pricer options like RRL, Kicking Mule Workshop, or Samurai, Flathead, Ironhearts etc.

    But since fit is of paramount importance, you'd be best served shopping at B&M establishments w/ great selections of quality denim (Farinellis in DC, BiG in NYC, Self Edge @ SF etc.). If that's not possible, play around with measurements and patronize online stores with good return policies.
     
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    Thinking about getting Nudie Average Joe Dry Heavy. I'm a size 33" waist, 23-24" thighs" (all these are true tape measure measurements)

    How much should i size down in the Average Joes?
     
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    Thinking about getting Nudie Average Joe Dry Heavy. I'm a size 33" waist, 23-24" thighs" (all these are true tape measure measurements)

    How much should i size down in the Average Joes?


    I am a typical size 32 and I wear a 31 or 32 in AJDH. I tried both at CoOp a few weeks ago. The 32 fit dead on at the waist. The 31 was considerablly snug at the waist but had a better fit overall. I could have done a 30 and probably not buttoned them for a few weeks.

    I would have gone with a 31 personally.


    Also note I said SIZE 32 not 32" waist.
     
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    sanforized doesn't mean it won't shrink, only that it will shrink less. how much less is dependent on the level of treatment and the type of denim. and it's only steam so it probably will still shrink some. It's also useful for getting rid of some of the factory starch, and if you keep the water below 68 degrees farenheit, the indigo won't dissolve in it as indigo is insoluble in water at 68 degrees(some may fall off however, but don't wory)

    So soaking at higher temps will have a pretty dramatic effect (no dissolve vs dissolve?)
     
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    Yes, but it will take months of hard hard wear to actually get the entire jean to fade. You'll get fading on the ass area, thigh/knee area, honeycomcbs area generally, the rest will remain a deep indigo (it will be less shiny though).

    You have been most helpful. Thanks.
     
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    I've had a pair of Nudie Grim Tim for about a month, and don't wear them everyday.

    They're the very basic 'organic' model. Not selvage, dry or raw.

    I was wondering if I had to take the same precautions with washing these for the 'optimal appearance'. Looking at some of the supposedly 'impressive' pictures of hideously streaky jeans is making me scared. These all seem to be selvage or dry. I'm not such a fan of my fucking mobile phone leaving an imprint on my jeans so it's quite feasible I've bought the wrong pair of jeans. I love the fit and they were very expensive for my standards so I'd like to have them nice for as long as possible.

    Anyone care to shed some light?
     

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