I have a jean...(The Ultimate Jean Thread For Beginners) - ask questions here.

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  1. wanderingpilgrim

    wanderingpilgrim Member

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    I am looking for a jean suggestion. I have a pair of Ande Whall cougars that are just about perfect, except they are too slim at the ankle. With my size 16 feet they make me look odd with all but my most minimal shoes. I would like something that is comparable to the cougar fit, but a little wider at the ankle. The kicker is that I am 6'8'' and 245 lbs and need about a 37 inch inseam but longer would be better. I can't go any slimmer than the cougars through the thigh, since I had to stretch them out at the lower thigh before I could pull them up over my quads.


    The Cougars measure.
    Waist 36
    Front Rise 11.25
    Back Rise 16.4
    Top Thigh 13.5
    Mid Thigh 10.25
    Knee 8.9
    Leg Opening 8.25

    As a side note. The Ande Whall cougars would be perfect in every way if I had smaller feet.
     


  2. ToruOkada

    ToruOkada Senior member

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    a question that's probably been answered multiple times but i need a quick yes or no answer.

    one wash jeans don't need a soak right? i can just put them on and/or hem them without worry of significant shrinkage?
     


  3. ToruOkada

    ToruOkada Senior member

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    question answered by sufu but i'll add the answer here just for future reference and cause i love you guys:

    "You can just wear them...but I still like to wash them before I wear them just in case. Sometimes there's a bit of shrinkage left in them."
     


  4. whodini

    whodini Conan OOOOOOO"BRIEN!

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    I am looking for a jean suggestion. I have a pair of Ande Whall cougars that are just about perfect, except they are too slim at the ankle. With my size 16 feet they make me look odd with all but my most minimal shoes. I would like something that is comparable to the cougar fit, but a little wider at the ankle. The kicker is that I am 6'8'' and 245 lbs and need about a 37 inch inseam but longer would be better.
    Based on your dimensions I'd recommend looking into Japanese repros that can accommodate that kind of inseam as most jeans go to 34" or 36". Affiliate Self Edge or Blue in Green would be places to take a look and compare measurements. Custom jeans from Crate could be another option.

    question answered by sufu but i'll add the answer here just for future reference and cause i love you guys:
    "You can just wear them...but I still like to wash them before I wear them just in case. Sometimes there's a bit of shrinkage left in them."

    While there's nothing wrong with that answer it's definitely oversimplified for a few reasons:
    -Any shrinkage in the waist is going to be undone after a few wears.
    -Any/most shrinkage in the legs can be counteracted by pulling on them while still wet.
    -If someone is looking to hem their jeans I would tell them that wearing the jeans first for a few days is more important than soaking first, the reason being that creasing behind the knees and in general will take off a noticeable part of the inseam. Unlike the shrinkage from soaking, there's no way to get back the lost inseam as the creases will reset after a few wears (UNLESS your jeans are washed so much that they are no longer rigid and can not hold a crease).

    Basically, I just wear my jeans and worry about the possible shrinkage down the road. YMMV.
     


  5. ToruOkada

    ToruOkada Senior member

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    knew i could count on you, who. thanks for the answer. i ended up already taking them in to get hemmed to the length of another pair i have that are perfect on me...maybe even a bit of slack. i think they're going to turn out okay.
     


  6. Kashiwa

    Kashiwa Senior member

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    Hello all,

    First post, but I've been gleaning info here for a while now. Looking to get some high quality denim and have some q's. Basically looking for something heavy ounce that will last a long time and get better with age....

    I live outside of Tokyo so I have plenty to choose from, maybe too much.

    In the past, I have been wearing rather cheap denim and the problem has been that it tends to stretch such that within a short period it becomes excessively baggy...

    I have been looking at the Iron Heart 634s. Tried these on in 33x34 and 34x34 at Hinoya. The 34's fit quite well, while I was just able to slide into the 33's and get them buttoned up with a little thumb abuse. I've heard these stretch out a bit over an inch, so I'm wondering if anyone has experience with these and would recommend 33 or 34?

    Any recommendations for something else to look at? I 've checked out the Samurais at Americaya, but I'm a bit worried that as a newbie I wouldn't end up with a decent fit.

    Thanks
     


  7. Master-Classter

    Master-Classter Senior member

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    Hi, please please looking for a quick answer...

    1. Sizing/fit for a pair of Dior 19cm's... I'm a 28 in APC NC, 29 in Nudie SJ's, etc... what size should I go for in dior's? will a 29 work?
    2. On a 29 for example, do you know what the back rise measure is? less then 14? and the thigh?
    3. Last, are the MIT fit different from MIJ, if so how?

    Thanks so much
     


  8. pridecake

    pridecake Senior member

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    I'm not 100% on this but SuFu says to size down 2 for an ideal dior fit, the logic in that being that the waist size is +2-3 inches bigger than the tagged dize. I think a 27-28 would work well for a slimming fit. The MII fits differently then the MIJ by being cut looser, with comparable worse quality fabric and larger back pockets. That's about it
     


  9. MortyGras

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    Kashi, you should definitly go for the size 33. The smaller size you can fit into the better with those (not something i would usually say, but with IH's..)
     


  10. bakaroo

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    Thinking about making the jump into dry denim. So far I've only been wearing Diesel, SFAM, COH... all those mall brands but they fit me well.

    I've been looking at APC New Standards for my first pair (if I'm going to do this, I want to do it right) but my main concern is that I'm a little on the big side. All of my jeans / pants are a 38w and my inseam is around 30" or so.

    With that in mind:

    1. Denimbar recommends sizing down 2 on the NS, does this translate to 36 or 34? I tend to think that the next size down from a 38 would be a 36 (since most stores sell them like this) but they sell a 37 so should I count that as the next down?

    2. I realize that I'm on the large size so a concern of mine is that I don't look like an ice cream cone on the bottom half and I prefer pants that aren't skintight. However, I really don't want jeans that are loose therefore harder to get any fades / honeycombs. Should I go for the Rescues or will the New Standards be okay (perhaps size down 1 instead of 2)?

    and lastly,

    3. I have short legs and a longer torso. Is it recommended that I hem or just keep the 34"? I'm afraid of looking even shorter than I am.

    Thanks in advance!
     


  11. whodini

    whodini Conan OOOOOOO"BRIEN!

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    With that in mind:
    1) 38-2=36 in APC NS. A few people have been able to go down 3 in APC Rescue (38-3=35.) 2) Rescues aren't baggy, they're just a full cut. APC NS is a slim straight cut. It seems that in general people on here with a 34 waist and larger seem to go with a pair of Rescues and are happy but YMMV. 3) You could get away with a bit of stacking with APC NS but as Rescues are a bit fuller I'd probably trim down a few inches, say 34" to 32" or whatever works for you. Farinelli's has a great online return policy (I don't know what's up with DenimBar these days) so you could try ordering the Rescues or NS and see which works best for you. DO know they will be a bit tight at first but will stretch out considerably after a few wears.
     


  12. Kashiwa

    Kashiwa Senior member

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    MortyGras,

    Thanks for the response. As you said, from everything I've read about Iron Hearts, the concensus seems to be that they are likely to stretch with little to no shrinking. So it seems like the 33s and a little discomfort at the beginning will be the better bet for me?


    Can anyone else describe their experience with Iron Hearts and stretching?
     


  13. whacked

    whacked Senior member

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    2) Rescues aren't baggy, they're just a full cut. APC NS is a slim straight cut. It seems that in general people on here with a 34 waist and larger seem to go with a pair of Rescues and are happy but YMMV.

    NS has a slight taper, fool. That's also probably why bigger folks go with the Rescue, to avoid the carrot top effect.
     


  14. whodini

    whodini Conan OOOOOOO"BRIEN!

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    I got your taper right here, bitch. I don't like to say 'taper' with ns because it's so slight and the word makes some people envision 7'' hems.
     


  15. ArliHawk`

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    As my first excursion into raw denim, I ordered one pair of Good Society relaxed and one pair of Chip & Pepper Picklewagon Twin City. When I spoke to the salesperson, he recommended sizing down in Good Society, so I did. While ordering the Chip and Pepper, the salesperson recommended ordering my normal size.

    Does anyone have experience with either of these jeans? Just wanted to make sure I needed to size down in Good Society and stay normal size with Chip and Pepper.

    Thanks.
     


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