Gdc_2008, while I haven't owned any S5000s, my experience with other raw denim leads me to believe that they will stretch somewhat in the thigh, but I've never had anything other than APCs stretch really signficantly; so if they're tight now, they'll probably stay relatively tight. You can always try spraying the denim around the thighs with water, then wearing them and doing everything you can to stretch it. This might result in some pretty significant stretching in the knees, too, though. Someone with more experience with the Samurai denim please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks for the help. They are a bit tight, and I've tried getting just the thighs wet to see if that'll help stretch them out...its really only that one spot that seems to tight....the rest seems like its ok.