Wow, thanks sauce. Thats a lot of good info. Id rep you if there was a system for it and my 4 posts mattered Im just a regular dude who wants to self-improve, so thanks for your expertise. Let me get this straight. Are you telling me the RR's are narrower around the leg than an SS? Let me mention that Im more of a loose fit kind of guy with a muscular, not fat, build. I Just want it to look right on me. Also, for reference, this is what I am currently wearing (in order of Levi 559 Straight 34x34 (Dark grey, awesome) Gap Bootfit 34x34 (Black, Great) American Eagle Bootcut 34/34 (light blue, last resort jeans. Pre torn and faded. what was i thinking?) Finally, not to ask too much, any good belt/shoe combos? I (along with everyone on the board, love the clark beeswax desert). I also like the RM williams in a unique off brown color - problem is I just bought the born hemlock. Should I go for a new boot? No problem, that's what the thread's for. What I'm saying is that the RRs are a little bit wider in the upper thighs, in my experience, than the Svens in the same size--so a 34 Sven is probably going to fit you somewhere inbetween the 33 and 34 Ralfs in the upper and mid thigh. However, just to make it a little more confusing, the knees on the Ralfs are smaller than the knees on the Svens, because the Ralf is a bootcut and the Svens are straight-leg. So while the thighs on the Ralfs start out a little looser, they get tighter as you go down the thighs more quickly than the Svens do. In general I think it sort of evens out. I'm not sure what you're asking on the belt/shoe question.