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I gave up trying to teach my friends, but it's so hard sometimes...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Flambeur, Dec 30, 2008.

  1. Flambeur

    Flambeur Senior member

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    One of my good friends was bragging last night about buying like 5 pairs of Kenneth Cole shoes on sale... He was so proud of himself, and so excited about the style and quality of those shoes... [​IMG] It was kind of hard not to chime in with something when he was going on and on about how great Kenneth Coles are.... But I just don't wanna be an asshole, I guess. As long as he likes them?
     
  2. wgiceman

    wgiceman Senior member

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    Your lack of a response was very classy.
     
  3. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff Senior member

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    One of my good friends was bragging last night about buying like 5 pairs of Kenneth Cole shoes on sale... He was so proud of himself, and so excited about the style and quality of those shoes...

    [​IMG]

    It was kind of hard not to chime in with something when he was going on and on about how great Kenneth Coles are.... But I just don't wanna be an asshole, I guess. As long as he likes them?


    did he get them at like less than 50 dollars each? then that would be fine. im fearing he did not though
     
  4. denimdestroyedmylife

    denimdestroyedmylife Senior member

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    i know someone that ALWAYS wears these square toed KCs
    i don't feel close enough to him to say anything
    but i feel enough affection that i feel i should help the poor guy
    i have dropped hints to people that know and love him hoping that he will get the message
    but i fear my approach may be too oblique to be effective
     
  5. Lel

    Lel Senior member

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    Does it matter?

    Unless he's rubbing it in your face and debasing your John Lobbs, its sort of none of your business. Believe me, I hate square toed shoes as much as anyone else but unless they make it my business (coming to me for help, attacking my own shoes, etc) it's not and I have no right or place to try and "lecture" people because it just comes off as snobbish, elitist, and pretentious.
     
  6. denimdestroyedmylife

    denimdestroyedmylife Senior member

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    but don't you just feel bad for your afflicted friends?
     
  7. forsbergacct2000

    forsbergacct2000 Senior member

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    Better to keep your mouth shut and your friendship alive unless it really impacts you negatively in some part of your life. (Other than "I have to see it.")
     
  8. awxg

    awxg Senior member

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    Ignorance is bliss. I was much happier before stumbling upon SF. I can say the same for my wallet.
     
  9. forex

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    I don't ever make comments about other people's shoes unless they come and ask for advise.I got a few pairs of shoes to two co-workers recently and gave them some tips,they are liking the shoes and seem to be happy.Hopefully they won't be buying Cole Haans and CKs anymore.
     
  10. forex

    forex Senior member

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    Ignorance is bliss. I was much happier before stumbling upon SF. I can say the same for my wallet.

    Be a real friend and let him stay happy.


    +1,this is so fucking true.
     
  11. WhateverYouLike

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    I think KC shoes were on sale online for like 20-30 bucks each recently. Hard to argue with that price point if you don't know any better.
     
  12. Doc4

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    Does... but unless they make it my business (coming to me for help, attacking my own shoes, etc) ...

    True enough!

    But here's a 'borderline' moral dilemma ... you and Mr. KCshoes are sitting around at a party with a few other mutual friends ... he mentions his great shopping 'success' ... and then the other people start complimenting him for his stylishness ... and start chastising you for wearing 'those silly round-toe English shoes' ...
     
  13. rebenga

    rebenga Senior member

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    I know a very nice guy who has the tag on his coat (outerwear, not suit jacket) sleeve.

    I'm not sure if I should

    a. leave it alone
    b. tell him that the tag is meant to be removed
    c. snip it off secretly
     
  14. yawn123_#21

    yawn123_#21 Well-Known Member

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    even if you say something, they won't understand. They have to actually want to better themselves in order for them to understand and change. I guess it's better to just leave em be unless they ask you for help. they might have other values, or needs that are more important to them atm. or maybe his job entails dirty work. ie you would clean toilets with crappy kc shoes, but not santonis. or he might have kids at home he wants to be able to clothe feed and put thru college than to be nicely dressed. I know some people that should be poorly dressed but can actually pay their rent than to be a nicely dressed hobo.
     
  15. Flambeur

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    I think KC shoes were on sale online for like 20-30 bucks each recently. Hard to argue with that price point if you don't know any better.

    Ehh, I don't know about that unless you only planned to wear them when you're shoveling shit. Believe me, I went through the phase when I thought KC was cool.. Like in high school. And the quality is horrible as well, every KC shoe I've had looked like shit after 2-3 wears.

    True enough!

    But here's a 'borderline' moral dilemma ... you and Mr. KCshoes are sitting around at a party with a few other mutual friends ... he mentions his great shopping 'success' ... and then the other people start complimenting him for his stylishness ... and start chastising you for wearing 'those silly round-toe English shoes' ...


    This happens to me from time to time, not necessarily with shoes but pocket squares, etc. I just make fun of their mom or something in return.

    Better to keep your mouth shut and your friendship alive unless it really impacts you negatively in some part of your life. (Other than "I have to see it.")

    Yeah pretty much. I think a huge part of becoming wiser is learning not to criticize people unprovoked, especially when they are happy about something.
     
  16. philosophe

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    I think a huge part of becoming wiser is learning not to criticize people unprovoked, especially when they are happy about something.

    +1. Could his shoes possibly matter that much?
     
  17. Night Owl

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    I know a very nice guy who has the tag on his coat (outerwear, not suit jacket) sleeve.

    I'm not sure if I should

    a. leave it alone
    b. tell him that the tag is meant to be removed
    c. snip it off secretly


    I'd like to see you try c. [​IMG]
     
  18. sonlegoman

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    Okay, I have to chime in with my own story:
    A really good friend of mine was a huge slob. He wore track pants and tee shirts everywhere. Then he miraculously found a girlfriend. And then she started to change him. And it was an improvement over track pants and tee shirts but instead of a slob who doesn't care, I now have a douchebag for a friend. What am I to do?

    For example, he now wears those obnoxious shirts with the diagonal checks and he always has a tee shirt underneath it.

    And the bad part is, his gf gives me crap for what I wear which is the standard SF uniform of toned down attire. She once went on and on about how my subtle pinstriped pants shouldn't be paired with a check shirt. Or that a tie with very small woven dots should not have been worn with a check shirt. I know this is suppose to be in the "women don't know crap about men's style" thread but I just thought I'd put it here. And yes, she thinks rounded cap-toes make me look old.
     
  19. Flambeur

    Flambeur Senior member

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    And the bad part is, his gf gives me crap for what I wear which is the standard SF uniform of toned down attire. She once went on and on about how my subtle pinstriped pants shouldn't be paired with a check shirt. Or that a tie with very small woven dots should not have been worn with a check shirt. I know this is suppose to be in the "women don't know crap about men's style" thread but I just thought I'd put it here. And yes, she thinks rounded cap-toes make me look old.

    UGGGGHHHHHH

    that's so fucking annoying.
     
  20. edinatlanta

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    Okay, I have to chime in with my own story:

    And the bad part is, his gf gives me crap for what I wear which is the standard SF uniform of toned down attire. She once went on and on about how my subtle pinstriped pants shouldn't be paired with a check shirt. Or that a tie with very small woven dots should not have been worn with a check shirt. I know this is suppose to be in the "women don't know crap about men's style" thread but I just thought I'd put it here. And yes, she thinks rounded cap-toes make me look old.


    A female friend of mine once chastised me because my PS and tie "aren't matching". I would have said something but there was drinking to be had.
     

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