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I found the Laptop [PLEASE DELETE]

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by smashwindow, Sep 3, 2012.

  1. smashwindow

    smashwindow Senior member

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    Alright, so being in the market for a new PC laptop I already have a Mac and using Parrallels/dualboot is getting old. In my field I use a lot of demanding software so I need a powerful laptop. My budget is around 2,800. Design is a HUGE factor for me. After some poking around I can't seem to find anything better than this:

    Razer Blade $2,500
    [​IMG]
    Processor

    Future platform with 3rd Generation
    Intel[​IMG] Core[​IMG] Processor (This will be at least 2.8 i7 or faster)

    Chipset

    Intel[​IMG] HM77 Express Chipset

    Memory

    8GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1600MHz

    Storage

    500GB 7200RPM HDD (Primary Storage)
    64GB SATA III SSD with NVELO
    Dataplex[​IMG] Software
    (Cache Acceleration)

    Graphics and Video

    Integrated Intel[​IMG] GMA HD – Mobile Mode
    NVIDIA[​IMG] GeForce[​IMG] GTX 660M 2GB GDDR5
    VRAM with NVIDIA Optimus[​IMG] Technology

    Display

    17.3” Full HD 16:9 Ratio, 1920x1080
    LED Backlit

    Additional Features

    Razer[​IMG] Switchblade User Interface
    Razer[​IMG] Anti-Ghosting Keyboard
    Razer[​IMG] Synapse 2.0 Enabled
    Built-in HD Webcam (2.0MP)
    Built-in Speakers
    Integrated Digital 7.1 Surround Audio Support
    (via HDMI 1.4) Dolby[​IMG] Home Theater[​IMG] v4
    Audio
    1x HDMI 1.4 Audio and Video Output
    3x USB 3.0
    1x 3.5mm Audio Microphone/Headphone
    Combo Jack
    1x Kensington Lock

    Power

    Integrated 60Wh Battery
    Compact AC Adapter (120Watt)

    Communications

    1x Gigabit Ethernet Port
    1x Integrated Intel Wi-Fi 802.11 A/G/N
    1x Integrated Bluetooth[​IMG] 4.0

    Size and Weight

    Width: 16.81 inches (42.7cm)
    Depth: 10.90 inches (27.7cm)
    Height: 0.88 inches (2.24cm)
    Weight: 6.6 pounds (2.99kg)

    My
    Problems as far as I can see is that it only has 8gigs of ram that's easily upgradable, probably will buy 16gigs Corsair Vengance...
     
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  2. Blackhood

    Blackhood Senior member

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    That is one overpowered laptop. Having said that I can't think of a better one for the price. What on earth do you do that requires that much mobile power, launch satellites from an aircraft carrier?
     


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    smashwindow Senior member

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    close, 3d rendering software... solidworks, autodesk axis, rhino, 3dsmax
     


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    made this is with less than a gigahertz

    [​IMG]
     


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    You said design is a huge factor for you: Can you elaborate on that a little bit? There are laptops out there that give similar or better performance for less coin, but the design of a laptop is much more subjective...
     


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    Blackhood Senior member

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    You would get a whole lot more bang for your buck by just buying the same spec desktop and a 24" HD screen. Maybe save $900 you could put towards ... Anything.

    My developers have found that having dual screens that have more real estate was more advantageous than the mobility of a laptop. Just something to consider.

    That's a beast of a laptop, and I'm not sure that many brands will be all that different at the top end. Cutting edge is cutting edge, no matter what logo is stuck to the lid.
     


  7. b1os

    b1os Senior member

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    If you're into that type of stuff, you could also get an Alienware.


    I don't get why you would want to do rendering and stuff with it. I mean, I'm sure the battery is empty after a couple minutes. 3kg and 17" seems the opposite of portability. Glare? And just a 64GB SSD, lol.
     
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  8. Blackhood

    Blackhood Senior member

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    Alienware would be even more expensive, and it would be made from Dell components.

    That battery should hold up for a couple of hours at least, more with decent power management software running. The SSD doesn't need to be much bigger, as it will only store the OS and one or two select programs. Everything else would go onto the larger drive. I would be tempted to make that larger drive into a 1TB drive, but I wouldn't waste money on a larger SSD.
     


  9. b1os

    b1os Senior member

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    OP has more than one or two important (big) programs. 64 is tiny. And unacceptable for a gamer notebook that's 2500$.
     
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  10. indesertum

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    Nah. Razor is better than Alienware. And really the ssd should be for applications and programs only. You don't really need 64gb worth of ssd

    The new razor blade sounds awesome. The mousepad is a very clever idea. I personally hate the green highlights but thats about my only criticism. The anantech review made it sound awesome. Ignore the haterism. It's a sf disease.
     


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    @indesertum: <64GB? Jeez. Definitely the best way to save 75$ in a 2500$ notebook, right...

    Anyway, it looks decent (ignoring the "1337" Razor branding). Non-glare, which is a must. The only problem I would have is the price (Razor markup) and fanboi image. But more importantly, like I tried to convey and others did as well, I'm just not sure whether OP is on the right track by getting a notebook.

    Also, from the anandtech review:

    And I think you haven't noticed OP's need for performance and actually read the review you refer to...

    Of course, all but the first quoted negative aspect could very well be "fixed" in the new release. Could. I don't know whether they are. Do you?
     
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  12. indesertum

    indesertum Senior member

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    that is the old review. the new one supposedly has been fixed on a lot of those issues. there aren't any hands on reviews yet as its not out, but we'll see. i dont think you can critique a system that isn't out yet based on an old review

    i personally still wouldnt go with alienware. overpriced and looks like shit.

    also we're not comparing 64gb to more, but two different systems one of which has 64gb another which has more. you can't really say we're saving $75 when we're comparing two different systems




    do you really NEED 64gb of SSD space when you already have a built in hard drive?

    i dont honestly see how you can have 64gb of just programs and applications



    i dont see what we're arguing about. it's not like either of us are the ones buying it
     
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  13. b1os

    b1os Senior member

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    Well, Windows alone should have like 30GB. If you play any games or have any larger programs and do like the time boost, you easily go with 10-15GB/game nowadays (and this is supposed to be a gamer's notebook!). Moreover, in case you sometimes have a big temp folder (like extracting stuff), it can easily -- for a given time -- add a good amount of gigs -- yeah, you can "outsource" it, and it's better for the SSD's longevity, but I'm lazy. Plus you should leave at least 10% of the SSD unwritten (or is this outdated?). And really, 128GB are like 90€ nowadays. I paid 150€ a year ago (or so)... shouldn't be a limiting factor whatsoever for a gamer's notebook.

    Anyway, get a desktop PC and do your rendering and stuff there. Higher performance, much better value, your own hardware, bigger monitors with probably >1080p. You could even easily get a 64GB ramdisk in your budget (not sure how complex your renderings are w/r/t textures and stuff) :satisfied:. If you just need a portable device for non-rendering things, get an older Thinkpad (T-Series).
     
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    huh i suppose. i guess you could add your own ssd? im not sure if thats possible with the thin form factor. but i really like what they've done with the laptop. im surprised something like this (replacing the number pad with a programmable trackpad) hasn't been dont before (has it?)

    and it is true 64gb have slower access (I think?) and the more you fill it up the worse the performance gets.
     


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    b1os Senior member

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    Yep (well, they're less fast in writing). So another reason pro... ;)

    (Look at: sequential write, 4 KB random write)

    [​IMG]

    Of course, the access time is the most critical part, but still.

    Just saw that you've edited the post. Of course, I can't critique a system that's not out yet. But can you? It's a fact that these issues were present in the past version, so I have to assume that they still are. (and seriously, Alienware is overpriced but this here isn't? ;))
     
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