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I dislike captoes: sell me on them

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by usctrojans31, Mar 7, 2013.

  1. usctrojans31

    usctrojans31 Senior member

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    Before I commit SF blasphemy and have Spoo, Foo, Vox, Manton, and others, descend onto me in a sea of rage, I want to give you all time to change my mind and sell me on the allure of the cap toe. I find the look obtuse and can't seem to get past it. When it comes to a shoe, I prefer a wholecut to a cap toe, and don't think that I am alone.

    I have used C&J as an example and the 348 last for both photos, so that we compare apples to apples. To me, the Alex is just a much nicer shoe, with a suit, or with a sweater.

    So my challenge to you: sell me on a cap toe.

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  2. DerekS

    DerekS Senior member

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    variety is the spice of life.
     
  3. MalfordOfLondon

    MalfordOfLondon Senior member

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    Wholecuts look great when they are brand new and unworn. I find they look increasingly unattractive as they pick up more wear...

    There are only a handful of wholecuts that I like, one example being the G&G Hanly (which looks more like an austerity brogue...)

    Captoes are versatile and classic.
     
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  4. MikkelM

    MikkelM Active Member

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    Captoe makes long feet look not so long.
     
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  5. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Senior member

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    ^^^ this. I like wholecuts but with the absence of any design details to draw the eye, the eye is drawn to the creases, nicks, flaws, etc that the shoe picks up during its lifespan. The cap of the captoe is such a strong design element that it draws the eye and you don't notice the other stuff.
     
  6. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    They serve completely different purposes. The cap-toe is a very conservative, classic business shoe. The wholecut is much less consevative, and arguably has no place in the business world. Now if you happen to be in a very casual business environment, chances are, no one cares if you wear a wholecut to work.
     
  7. Calder

    Calder Senior member

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    I find it hard to believe that there are many workplaces where anyone - other than an SFer - would notice the difference. Certainly in my workplace management wear brown brogues to the office all too often.

    That said, I agree with the above points that wholecut shoes look bland. The only plain toe shoes I have in black are monks, which gives a different visual element to itself.
     
  8. RogerP

    RogerP Senior member

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    Buy what you like. There isn't a style of shoe that I particularly dislike, but if there were, I wouldn't be looking to be sold on it by those who hold a different aesthetic preference.

    I'm not a huge cap toe fan, but it is a safe and conservative choice that will offend no-one. If conformity is your main goal in dressing for business, you could hardly make a better choice.

    I like wholecuts very much but don't presently own a pair. The lines have to be REALLY right on such a shoe, else they can kind of look like shapeless blobs.
     
  9. Calder

    Calder Senior member

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    I have a particular dislike for mid-brown closed lace brogues. Why? Pointless, pointless shoes.
     
  10. MalfordOfLondon

    MalfordOfLondon Senior member

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    This in bundles. Much like the shape of a breast patch pocket.... It can make or break.
     
  11. Ivar

    Ivar Senior member

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    This is the correct answer. Bigfoots should go cap toes always, lest their feet look hulkish.
     
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  12. kcox68

    kcox68 Senior member

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    The only way to sell you on a shoe you don't like is if you have a need for that shoe. If you work in a professional environment then the cap-toe is de rigeuer. If not, then you probably shouldn't wear them. Think of it like part of a uniform. If you don't wear the full thing, people will notice.
     
  13. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Senior member

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    if you don't like them, don't buy them.

    there is no need to conform if they are not necessary for your environment.

    I generally hate wholecuts and PTBs, with the exception of black tie (for wholecuts)
     
  14. cptjeff

    cptjeff Senior member

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    Captoes are not the only appropriate shoe in a conservative work environment. Far from it.
     
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    Veremund Senior member

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    Why would we want to make you like something you don't? Don't like 'em, don't wear 'em. :)
     
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  16. kcox68

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    No, they're not the only appropriate shoe, but they are, as I stated, like part of a uniform for may offices in many cirumstances. I wouldn't walk into an interview or a meeting with the president wearing a brogue or loafers just as I wouldn't wear an odd jacket and chinos. I would put on a newly polished pair of black cap-toes, white shirt and navy or gray suit. There's a time when an individual has to present himself as part of the group; it's both a sign of respect and submission. When those times arise, go with cap-toes.

    If you don't agree, I certainly respect your opinion.
     
  17. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Senior member

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    I'm not interested in selling you on anything. If you don't like them, then you don't like them. Move on. #stupidthread
     
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  18. gambit50

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    OP cannot be helped. I would quote GC Rota but that would be pointless.
    And while I agree that it is a poor thread, there seems to be something in the SF air today with a number of them being initiated.
     
  19. cptjeff

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    Oh, I agree there are occasions where a very conservative shoe is called for. I just don't think of clothes as a uniform, nor do I think of formality distinctions as rigid and proscriptive. A certain level of formality is called for on occasion, but the overall outfit has to meet the standard, and the shoes are just a part of that. IMO, there are quite a few shoe options that coordinate suitably with a conservative outfit. No, loafers or full brogues aren't amoung them, but a punchcap or a punchcap with medallion? Sure. I have a pair of all black AE Polos that come off as quite formal, and they wind up being my go to shoe for conservative occasions.

    Besides, even the President doesn't wear captoes exclusively in formal settings. He seems to favor a split toe.
     
  20. AmericanGent

    AmericanGent Senior member

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    Your personal style is yours. I don't think that anyone else can talk you into personal taste and preferences. If you don't prefer cap toes as a part of your shoe options you'll get no guff from me!

    I like my cap toes.
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