Hugo Boss Tuxedo: Shoulder/Sleeve Not Right

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  1. bsacc

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    Hi Everyone! This is my first post, but I have been a longtime guest reader and appreciate all the great advice from the contributors.

    I have been looking for a tuxedo and the Hugo Boss Carey Grant has caught my eye. It's got the peak lapels I want at the right price point. It's not as slim as I'd like it to be, but their in-house tailor said he can take in the jacket and pants to make it fit more like the Hugo (red) line. There is however one problem. The shoulder/sleeve area doesn't look right. Their in-house tailor said he can't do anything about it, but I'd like to get other opinions. When I stand in my normal posture, it wrinkles, but when i put my arms forward, it looks fine.

    Here are some pics of how it looks when I stand straight up in my normal posture. These pictures are from when I tried it on in the store, so it has not been tailored at all:

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    If anyone also has any other suggestions for nice peak lapel tuxedos priced under $1,000, please feel free to share! Thanks in advance!
     


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    Some additional information that I previously left out: Someone told me that the sleeve needs to be rotated at the shoulder. I found this animation in another thread (credit to tailorgod). Does anyone think that's the problem? If so, is it fixable and is it an easy alteration?
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    Or is the problem with the shoulder? Someone else said it might be a shoulder pad issue.
     
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  3. othertravel

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    You might need to size down.
     


  4. bsacc

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    This one was a 38. I tried the 36 and it did the same thing, plus the chest area was too tight.

    And for both sizes, when I brought my arms forward, the wrinkles disappeared.
     


  5. VinnyMac

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    It looks like the shoulders are too wide, the yoke (across the upper back/rear shoulders) is too wide and too structured and the sleeves don't accomodate the straight position of your arms. Judging from the shoulders (and sleeves), sizing down may be a good option. If that doesn't work, you can have alterations done or find a different cut.
     


  6. bsacc

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    I tried one size down and the sleeves did the same thing. The problem with the smaller size was the chest was too small causing the front to stick out a bit. So from a size standpoint, it doesn't make a difference in the sleeves. Maybe you're right that the cut might be the problem [​IMG]
     
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  7. FidelCashflow

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    keep looking for another tux - rotating the shoulder seems like a complicated fix - I'd be surprised if any store would do that alteration for free. you don't want to buy the tux only to find out no one can do it locally or it's expensive
     


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    I think the main problem is that the shoulders don't follow your natural shoulder line at all. You seem to have sloped, forward shoulders. Need to try other brands...
     


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    That photo alone should tell you to move on.
     


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    there's seriously something wrong with the sleeves with all the creases.
     


  11. bsacc

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    The shoulder pads are kind of big. I'm thinking if I move down to a 36 and have the shoulder pads replaced with smaller ones, it might fit better.

    Hugo Boss store already said they won't do it. I would have to take it to my own tailor, but even then I'm worried it won't get fixed or look right.

    Sloped forward? Actually, when I sloped my shoulders forward it would correct the creases in the sleeve.

    A good tailoring job can't salvage it, huh?
     


  12. FidelCashflow

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    yup - move on
     


  13. RDiaz

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    I'm talking about the shape of your clavicle, not the angle of your arms. See how your real shoulder seems to be in front of the jacket's shoulder in the picture.
     


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    You need forward shoulders. Taking out shoulder pads or decreasing shoulder width won't help you. Actually the shoulders will look better if you try a size or two larger, but you will end up with a very messy back...

    As RDiaz said, the shoulders must fit your natural shoulder line.
     
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    I see what you're saying. Thanks for explaining further. A good tailor can't fix that?
     


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