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HR Depts Suck

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by imageWIS, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. imageWIS

    imageWIS Senior member

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    Seriously, unless its for benefits, payroll or any other sort of paper work, they are for the most part, useless. Especially when it comes to recruiting or promotions. It's like they could give a shit about the employees or the good of the company. They only care about making themselves fully in control.
     
  2. Stu

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    Seriously, unless its for benefits, payroll or any other sort of paper work, they are for the most part, useless. Especially when it comes to recruiting or promotions. It's like they could give a shit about the employees or the good of the company. They only care about making themselves full in control.

    What happened Jon?
     
  3. Hombre Secreto

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    I remember this one time I applied for some shitty porter position at a kitchen and the HR broad literally asks me things like "what are your hobbies?" As if those kind of questions were going to be a good indicator of how I would do cleaning mats and fucking steam tables.
     
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    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    That's unfair but a common diatribe - HR often acts as the scapegoat or fuse in companies. You have to understand that HR needs to be extremely pragmatic and fact-oriented when it comes to many decisions and processes - they cannot get emotional about things or they would go nuts. Also, they often rely on information provided by the business(es) and execute on them.

    HR has a bad rap - mostly undeserved
     
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    That's unfair but a common diatribe - HR often acts as the scapegoat or fuse in companies. You have to understand that HR needs to be extremely pragmatic and fact-oriented when it comes to many decisions and processes - they cannot get emotional about things or they would go nuts. Also, they often rely on information provided by the business(es) and execute on them. HR has a bad rap - mostly undeserved
    Do you work in HR? I have been avoiding HR like the plague during my current job search and focusing on connecting with the potential hiring manager.
     
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    Flieger Senior member

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    Do you work in HR?

    I have been avoiding HR like the plague during my current job search and focusing on connecting with the potential hiring manager.


    This is truth
     
  7. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    Do you work in HR?

    I have been avoiding HR like the plague during my current job search and focusing on connecting with the potential hiring manager.


    You're wrong. You should get HR on your side - be pleasant and polite, recognize when they're helpful. This is a false dichotomy - you can connect with the business person making the hiring decision, while making a good impression on HR.

    I don't work in HR, no, but I work with HR a lot for all our recruiting efforts.
     
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    You're wrong. You should get HR on your side - be pleasant and polite, recognize when they're helpful. This is a false dichotomy - you can connect with the business person making the hiring decision, while making a good impression on HR.

    I don't work in HR, no, but I work with HR a lot for all our recruiting efforts.


    [​IMG] I've seen your posts you are an HR rat [/butter
     
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    HR has a bad rap - mostly undeserved

    HR is not all bad, but it deserves most of its bad rap, IMO.
     
  10. imageWIS

    imageWIS Senior member

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    What happened Jon?
    Super long story short: SVP is seriously considering me for a position I am perfect for. HR is giving me the runaround because they weren't involved in the decision. HR is a total detriment.
     
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    I really don't see any reason for HR. After years of seeing what they do, I think most companies would be better off just hiring temps to file the paperwork and do the hiring.

    They're useless when dealing with employee issues and I've had them make things much worse after they got involved.

    HR has fucked me over so many times and I've got no love for them whatsoever...
     
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    Being an HR person is hard because the system is set up to make everyone hate you. Their job is to enforce stupid bureaucratic policies they had no hand in creating, and to make absolutely sure that when there's a labor problem, the company doesn't get sued. I've worked with good HR people, they are saints.
     
  13. imageWIS

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    Being an HR person is hard because the system is set up to make everyone hate you. Their job is to enforce stupid bureaucratic policies they had no hand in creating, and to make absolutely sure that when there's a labor problem, the company doesn't get sued. I've worked with good HR people, they are saints.

    In other words: a total detriment to the company, since most of those rules exist only so HR people have jobs.
     
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    Who's gonna do payroll? I know for a fact GM's, controllers, and managers hate doing that shit. [​IMG]
     
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    In other words: a total detriment to the company, since most of those rules exist only so HR people have jobs.

    No, the rules exist because some employee before you did something that was against the law or that lowered the company's productivity and profitability. Then, upper management or legal told HR to make sure it doesn't happen again.
     
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    For my current position, I emailed my resume straight to the hiring manager, had a mutual colleague email my resume straight to the director and give him a phone call, AND submitted my resume via the online system.

    My resume never made it out of the online system. It was filtered as unqualified. Yet here I am. My director had to tell HR to give them my resume and include me in the process as I was very well qualified.

    Most of my problems with HR revolve around automated resume filtering.
     
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    For my current position, I emailed my resume straight to the hiring manager, had a mutual colleague email my resume straight to the director and give him a phone call, AND submitted my resume via the online system.

    My resume never made it out of the online system. It was filtered as unqualified. Yet here I am. My director had to tell HR to give them my resume and include me in the process as I was very well qualified.

    Most of my problems with HR revolve around automated resume filtering.


    Ha, yeah, same here. I am working the best job I've ever had, and HR rejected me within hours of my applying online. LOL, I got an email saying they didn't consider me a qualified candidate and would not be pursuing me. I kept working the back channels and a month later the hiring manager called me and I started the interview process. Ended up beating out 100+ people. He never had seen that rejection or had any hand in it whatsoever.
     
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    HR has a bad rap - mostly undeserved

    You either have very low expectations out of Human Resources or you are delusional or simply retarded.
     
  20. gdl203

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    You either have very low expectations out of Human Resources or you are delusional or simply retarded.

    huh? Check your mouth son
     

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