How would you rate Gianni Campagna suits of Caraceni?

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  1. Chris "Italia"

    Chris "Italia" Senior member

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    Would you say they are one of the best made suits in the world, better than Kiton?
     


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    rnoldh Senior member

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    Would you say they are one of the best made suits in the world, better than Kiton?


    I never heard of him till I googled this Forbes article!

    http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2000/0124/6502171a.html

    Sounds interesting. Probably mostly true but some exaggerations. 63 hours per suit!! $12,000 for a Vicuna suit!!! I doubt it, but with his customer list, I'm sure he put's puts out a quality product.

    Better than Kiton? I doubt it! In the same league as Kiton? Perhaps!
     


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    Chris "Italia" Senior member

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    He only makes 700 handmade suits a year.

    I would say it's a little better than Kiton.... Considering Kiton makes 20 thousand per year.
     


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    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    They are overprived and not that good at all from what I hear. There are at least two better Caraceni shops in Italy if not three.
     


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    LabelKing Senior member

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    Caraceni is an old name, and were very famous for their bespoke suits. Their silhouette is different from Kiton's.
     


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    I would imagine they are one of the best in the world, and probably better than Kiton...or in the same league at the least. I think Caraceni is mainly bespoke, while Kiton is mainly RTW.

    The styles are also different...Kiton is from Naploli while Caraceni is from Milan, I think.

    The price tag would probably be similar even if it was not Caraceni.
     


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    Would you say they are one of the best made suits in the world, better than Kiton?
    No. Gianni Campagna bought the name, but the quality of the suits are nowhere as good as the Caraceni brothers in Rome or the 'true' Caraceni in Milan.
     


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    No. Gianni Campagna bought the name, but the quality of the suits are nowhere as good as the Caraceni brothers in Rome or the 'true' Caraceni in Milan.

    I'm always curious when someone makes an absolute statement like this. On what is your assessment based? Ownership of suits from all three establishments?
     


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    T4phage Senior member

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    I'm always curious when someone makes an absolute statement like this. On what is your assessment based? Ownership of suits from all three establishments?
    Own:
    Kiton
    Caraceni Roma
    Examined in Milan:
    Campagna
    Caraceni Milan.
     


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    Mike C. Senior member

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    Would you say they are one of the best made suits in the world, better than Kiton?

    How do you define "best?" If more hand-work, that's one thing... However, when discussing suits of this level, the purchase isn't decided on the amount of hand-work, which is all pretty comprable (Kiton, St. Andrews, Caraceni). It's more about styling preferances as each make is completely different.
     


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    Mike C. Senior member

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    He only makes 700 handmade suits a year.

    I would say it's a little better than Kiton.... Considering Kiton makes 20 thousand per year.


    Kiton employs more tailors... most of whom go undisputed as among the best in the game.
     


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    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    Caraceni Milan.

    Any reason why you have not ordered from Caraceni in Milan?
     


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    Any reason why you have not ordered from Caraceni in Milan?
    Because I am usually in "Africa" more often! [​IMG]
    Seriously, I liked the cut and fit of the Roman branch, and to start off anew with a big name establishment is expensive!
     


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    I'm always curious when someone makes an absolute statement like this. On what is your assessment based? Ownership of suits from all three establishments?
    btw... what THREE establishments?

    Kiton & Caraceni by Campagna = MTM
    Caraceni Roma & A.Caraceni Milan = Bespoke.
     


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    Any reason why you have not ordered from Caraceni in Milan?

    Caraceni has a sterling reputation among Italians. Many consider them to make the highest quality, "best" suit in the world. I have no personal experience... maybe one day.

    Castangia is also another maker in this class... I love their styling as well.
     


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