How We Used to Dress

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by comrade, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. Calder

    Calder Senior member

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    The block user function is a wonderful thing, I heartily recommend it.
     


  2. msulinski

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    Wait, you want us to post links to support our views that sexism is a bad thing? That forcing women to dress in skirts is oppressive? I guess I just figured that was obvious. Apparently not. BTW, the argument that the rest of the world does it is weak. It just means that sexism and oppression are worse in other parts of the world than here.
     


  3. msulinski

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    To add, this whole concept that women must hide their bodies is ridiculous. Why don't men have to hide theirs?
     


  4. David Copeland

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    When it comes to professional dress policies, they do.
     


  5. David Copeland

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    Nope.


    Sure, as long as it is related to my original comment regarding a lawful company policy manual.


    Again, the rest of the world in business - where a policy manual declares a professional dress or skirt to be worn by women - would not seem a weak view as the USA has similar business policies.

    (I enjoyed the comment of another member who echoed - if you got a gripe with the dress code, you can work someplace else where your tastes are more compatible)
     


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  7. irgendwas

    irgendwas Well-Known Member

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    Quite a few Muslim women are considerably oppressed by patriarchy. Do you think that's good?

    There is a considerable difference between women working for Hooters and women working for Donald Trump. The former are required to look sexually attractive. The latter are required to look professional. As I have stated in my former post, I see no good reason why skirts should be more professional than trousers.

    Regarding the article "Why I wear skirts all the time": While parts of the article are utterly homophobic and transphobic, I am fine with women who want to look modest and feminine (whatever "feminine" means). There are also feminist women who wear skirts all the time. Dressing modestly and in a way typical of one's gender doesn't automatically mean having to condemn non-traditional gender roles.

    By the way, I didn't know my former post would start such a long discussion.
     


  8. msulinski

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    I am in agreement with you to a degree here. It looks like it is technically legal for a business to have a dress code that requires dresses or skirts for women. However, I don't think that makes it right, just legal.

    Also regarding this whole modesty thing, I don't see how this relates to dresses and skirts. I've seen some very immodest dresses and skirts, and very modest pants (all in professional dress).

    You also seem to think that a dress code that does not require dresses and skirts for women is completely casual and unprofessional. I don't see why a company can't have a dress code that is just as professional but allows pants for women.
     


  9. Jackinthebox

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    David Copeland is absolutely correct in his bold statement.

    Of course facts point out that there are half a billion more Christians than Muslims, but as David knows this does not mean there are more Christian women.

    1. Muslim men blow each other up as soon as they hit 25, which makes the amount of women much higher.
    2. Christians are so fantastic that The Lord graces them with predominantly MEN, not sinful women.
    3. Christian MEN are superior at killing Muslim men. As a Christian MAN can only kill men and must spare women. that it only helps schew the numbers.
    4. Christian women are so modest they become Muslims as then they can wear a burka, which is the perfect modest woman dress.

    Also, David is an expert as from Newport beach he could see Jakarta, the worlds biggest Muslim city. This is a special red meat skill, just as seeing Russia from Alaska.
    So don't even think that David does not check facts and utters clear biased nonsense. I had to explain it to you all as David rightly couldn't be bothered with us idiots who believe in things as enlightenment and facts.
     
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    I'm curious as to what planet you are on.

    Here on earth muslims are less than around 25% of the population so thats probably about the same for men and women. Less than 25% of women on my planet are muslim. In addition a fair proportion of nominally muslim countries are secular by state so unlikely to be strictly muslim.

    However don't let that stop you.
     
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    What happened to this thread?
     


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    David Copeland.
     
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    This thread is such a facepalm...
     


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    I started it with a simple unoriginal observation.
    Unfocused thought took over.
     


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    To get back to Mens dress, is that picture really representative of New Yorkers at the time? U free I like those outfits more than today's professional dress for men, but I don't believe construction workers, messengers, firefighters, cops, etc dressed like that.
     


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