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How old should you be before you can buy an expensive watch?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by josepidal, Apr 11, 2009.

  1. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Well-Known Member

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    I always thought it was a 3-series BMW or a McMansion.

    +1

    ...or C class Mercedes.
     
  2. Mathew J

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    Personally I had my first at around 25, worked and saved for it myself. Since then I have had two other Rolex watches and one Omega. I am somewhat glad I didn't get interested in watches until after school as I wouldn't have wanted the responsiblity then of having anything nice to worry about, wheras now I am not as crazy as before.

    I typically say either as a grad gift for college or whenever you can manage to buy one yourself so that way you respect it and it stands for something....unless your like me and then start buying more, at which point they just become another thing which sucks IMHO as the magic is gone.

    Though I will say be careful of the bosses....my last job I was fortunate enough to pick up a new Rolex Submariner, an upgrade from an Explorer I had sold....I was wearing a knock around Invicta for a long time (sub clone) and one day decided to wear in the Rolex figuring it looked so much like the Invicta no one would notice....

    Well not five minutes in the door my director noticed the watch and was astonished by it, she pointed to it with others in my department and said "is that a Rolex?" to which I replied yes...she then exclaimed that she was paying me too much and ever since the watch came up from time to time with her, usually in a somewhat negative light....definately an awkward situation.
     
  3. Mathew J

    Mathew J Well-Known Member

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    Question isn't totally out of left field. When one can "afford" it is a little vague, but to further that line of reasoning, that purchase has to be in line with your life's financial goals. You can have $20K saved up in cash, have regular contributions to your 401K and have enough to pay for rent/mortgage, taxes and other life necessities, but should you blow $10K of your savings to buy an IWC watch at a relatively young age?

    Kind of hard to say what you prioritize. On one hand you can argue, why should I wait until I'm 50 so I can buy an expensive watch - only leaves you 10-20 good years to enjoy it, versus buying the watch now at say 35 so you can enjoy it longer while still being on course to your financial goals. Not only that, the older you get, and you have a family with young kids, unless you make boat loads of money, what are the chances you will spend that kind of coin on yourself when you have a young family? So should you do it before or after they're grown?

    But don't let that fool you. You buy one expensive watch, you're on that path to having a collection. One won't be enough, I'd imagine. It's up to you. Even if I had $50K, I'd hesitate to buy that IWC I had my eye on. Now if I had $100K, different story.

    As to your boss, I do find that it matters. You need to sense how they react to that sort of thing. Some partners in law firms, for example, may notice those things and it may not bode well for you if you are perceived as flashy. It's all about using good judgment more than just I want that watch.


    Agreed, if you can truly stop at one then do it when you are young IMHO, when you don't have other responsibilities, get it insured and when the price goes up get your rider upped via an appraisal to cover the difference as if you lose it or it breaks you're covered for another one.

    My take is you only live once so live it up as much as you can, but if you're like me and it turns into a sickness then you are screwed, you don't want your hobbies/interests to have a negative impact on your long term financial goals.

    I only have two nice watches (I say only) and in retrospect wish I had stuck with just one, possibly I will sell the second to fund something nice for my wife as I really don't use it.
     
  4. NakedYoga

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    Personally I had my first at around 25, worked and saved for it myself. Since then I have had two other Rolex watches and one Omega. I am somewhat glad I didn't get interested in watches until after school as I wouldn't have wanted the responsiblity then of having anything nice to worry about, wheras now I am not as crazy as before.

    I typically say either as a grad gift for college or whenever you can manage to buy one yourself so that way you respect it and it stands for something.


    +1. I'm 24, about to graduate law school, and want to buy a nice watch as sort of a graduation gift to myself, as my parents are funding a European vacation after I take the bar exam. The unfortunate thing is that I haven't been able to save for it, since I can't have a job during the school year, and although summer jobs pay well, rent and utilities are expensive. I'm starting to save now, but I know I'll have to wait close to a year before I buy it... but it will still be a graduation gift to myself. I've got my eye on a few different ones; I'm thinking either Omega, Rolex, or IWC. Although I might do better with a more formal or business looking piece.
     
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    any age is fine mann... just no tag heuer please
     
  6. SirWilliam

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    Probably a silly question but when do you guys figure it's okay to think about buying an expensive dress watch (unless Daddy is a billionaire who gave you one for your 21st birthday)? For example, an expensive watch is an obvious show of wealth and what if no one at work and especially not your bosses have a nice watch or are in any particular way refined in their dress?

    I would not waste my money on an expensive watch if your intention is to come off as rich. I know poor people with $5k-$10k watches...hell, I have over $40k worth of watches and I make $10/hr. Also, unless people are interested in watches no one will know the difference. I would only buy an expensive watch if I really liked it.
     
  7. SkinnyGoomba

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    Though I will say be careful of the bosses....my last job I was fortunate enough to pick up a new Rolex Submariner, an upgrade from an Explorer I had sold....I was wearing a knock around Invicta for a long time (sub clone) and one day decided to wear in the Rolex figuring it looked so much like the Invicta no one would notice....

    Well not five minutes in the door my director noticed the watch and was astonished by it, she pointed to it with others in my department and said "is that a Rolex?" to which I replied yes...she then exclaimed that she was paying me too much and ever since the watch came up from time to time with her, usually in a somewhat negative light....definately an awkward situation.


    People this weak should be destroyed (your boss that is).

    You should note that its not the watch that got you in trouble, its the fact that you walked right into a trap and fell for it. Something that comes with the territory of luxury goods is when to talk about them, and when to avoid it and change the topic.
     
  8. somethingclever

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    In my opinion, watches are more about personal satisfaction, unless they're covered in gold and diamonds. If you want people to think you're wealthy, buy a boat or two.
     
  9. whacked

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    - oh so josepidal is the xeno101 of MC! That makes a lot of sense..

    No, that'd be an insult to Jose, who's a Hahvad-trained (or was it BU?[​IMG]) academic.


    Funny you brought up the comparison, cuz here I was thinking Aperiapan is the xeno101 of MC. 17 year old know-it-alls..
     
  10. redtree00

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    Easy to use formula

    IQ-(annual salary/1000)+(penis length in inches ^2)
     
  11. Atlantic herring

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    ^I actually tried that, and it doesn't make any sense.
     
  12. LA Guy

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    Why can't you construct your sentences in a more academic manner? No need to conjure theories of psychodynamics to criticize the OP, esp. the ridiculous phrase "are you that insecure?" Wearing a fancy watch is something that, IMHO, an emblematic symbol of "new money." That's the first thing men buy when they make some money. I'd advise the OP to focus on shoes or a nice jacket instead. No one gives a shit what you wear on your wrist. My uncle was a Jeweler and he wore a modest vintage piece while selling these $200K + watches.

    No one, excepting the members and readers here, really cares about your jacket or your shoes either.

    I say, if you want a nice watch, would enjoy wearing it, and can afford it (i.e. the purchase would not be fiscally irresponsible,) then do so. A beautiful watch, like beautiful shoes, suits, ties, or artisanal jeans and belts, should be worn because it gives you pleasure, not so that you can send some sort of social signal. The vast majority of people could not tell the differences between a $500 and a $15 000 watch or a $500 and a $5000 suit anyway, and take their cues from your body language, not the pricetag on your clothing.
     
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    No one, excepting the members and readers here, really cares about your jacket or your shoes either.

    I say, if you want a nice watch, would enjoy wearing it, and can afford it (i.e. the purchase would not be fiscally irresponsible,) then do so. A beautiful watch, like beautiful shoes, suits, ties, or artisanal jeans and belts, should be worn because it gives you pleasure, not so that you can send some sort of social signal. The vast majority of people could not tell the differences between a $500 and a $15 000 watch or a $500 and a $5000 suit anyway, and take their cues from your body language, not the pricetag on your clothing.


    Well, no one can disagree with that. To be honest, I'm not sure what type of response the OP is looking for. His post is too open ended. BUT, I'd still say shoes > watches.[​IMG]
     
  14. SkinnyGoomba

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    Besides the point that there is a vast difference between 'having made some money' and 'New money'.

    New money describes the newly rich, people who have become wealthy in their current generation.

    Most people going out and buying a watch because they enjoy it, are not 'new money' they're just your average person who wants to enjoy a little of the money he made.

    It takes a very insecure person to worry about all of the thoughts of other people when making a purchase. Asking advice and taking it into consideration is one thing, but avoiding buying something simple that you long for, because your boss will frown on it is another.

    The other thing that struck me as being insecure was the ignorant comment about 'billionaire daddy buying one for your 21st birthday'....said as if anyone who owns a nice watch is ethier, Neuvo rich, daddy bought it, ect. Not once did the OP take into consideration that yes, some people, even young people, work hard for things save their money and buy them.
     
  15. itsstillmatt

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    Why can't you construct your sentences in a more academic manner? No need to conjure theories of psychodynamics to criticize the OP, esp. the ridiculous phrase "are you that insecure?" Wearing a fancy watch is something that, IMHO, an emblematic symbol of "new money." That's the first thing men buy when they make some money. I'd advise the OP to focus on shoes or a nice jacket instead. No one gives a shit what you wear on your wrist. My uncle was a Jeweler and he wore a modest vintage piece while selling these $200K + watches.
    Not only painfully written, but painfully wrong.
     
  16. Timeless Fashion

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    The decision to purchase an expensive watch is very much a personal decision. Most people will think of an automatic Swiss made watch when talking about watches at this level. There is no appropriate age or income level, but it depends on your priorities and your reason for wanting to get an expensive watch. Is it more important than paying off your other debt or buying your first home or buying a nice car or designer suit or whatever that may pique your interest...

    Are you purchasing this watch because you want to impress others or do you value quality workmanship and do not care if others notice it or not? There are many expensive watches that will not get noticed by the average person. If you wear long sleeve shirts most of the time, you can easily conceal it under your sleeve and most people will not notice what you are wearing.

    People will comment on the fact that GWB wore a timex on his wrist during his presidency and I believe celebrities are more concerned about what they wear on their wrists compared to your average Joe wondering if your boss is going to look at you weird for wearing an expensive watch.
     
  17. Mathew J

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    +1. I'm 24, about to graduate law school, and want to buy a nice watch as sort of a graduation gift to myself, as my parents are funding a European vacation after I take the bar exam. The unfortunate thing is that I haven't been able to save for it, since I can't have a job during the school year, and although summer jobs pay well, rent and utilities are expensive. I'm starting to save now, but I know I'll have to wait close to a year before I buy it... but it will still be a graduation gift to myself. I've got my eye on a few different ones; I'm thinking either Omega, Rolex, or IWC. Although I might do better with a more formal or business looking piece.

    You would be well served with any of those IMHO, and they all make watches that are versitile...Omega with the Aqua Terra, Rolex with the Datejust, IWC with their Pilots line....

    And I would disagree with the person who said no Tag Heuer, their Carerra line and the historical pieces are truly nice, as is their link line...the others such as the F1 series I am less enthsiastic about but understand brands need diversity
     
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    I never understood the hype behind tag. If quality is important to you then you can get better watches for the price. If looks are, you can also get way nicer looking pieces from other brands cheaper than tag. Shit, I even hate the name.
     
  19. Mathew J

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    People this weak should be destroyed (your boss that is).

    You should note that its not the watch that got you in trouble, its the fact that you walked right into a trap and fell for it. Something that comes with the territory of luxury goods is when to talk about them, and when to avoid it and change the topic.


    I tried diversion, but at that point it was too late...it was recognized..I tried the whole gift approach but alas it was not worth it at that point. It didn't help that she was a watch nut as well with a self admitted max percieved budget threshold for used Hamiltons....I chalked it up to envy on some level (not salary as clearly she made more, but rather the mindset that allows one to endulge)...whatever, it never stopped me from wearing it at work and I am somewhat of a self admitted jerk so I would point it out after that awkward experience just to rub it in.
     
  20. Mathew J

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    I never understood the hype behind tag. If quality is important to you then you can get better watches for the price. If looks are, you can also get way nicer looking pieces from other brands cheaper than tag. Shit, I even hate the name.

    To each their own, personally I never got Breitling, they have maybe one watch that I think is nice and it is dreadfully too small or massively large (their historic diver watch)...other than that I find them garish and ugly....

    With Tag at least they have a collection that visibly appeals to me at some level, plus their prices aren't crazy expensive all things considered and their build quality is good from what I have seen, definately comparable with others at that price range, on average they are less expensive than both Omega and Breitling and more spendy than say Longines and Oris so that is where I place them.
     

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