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How much of SF groupthink do you actually follow?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by FidelCashflow, Feb 22, 2009.

  1. binge

    binge Senior member

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    I knew a guy into taxidermy who had a cat. Big hit at parties. Perhaps a small taxidermied kitten could sit in the pocket, else I might go with a rodent of some sort.

    I meant "stuffed animal" as understood by children. Not a corpse.
     


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    Composer_1777 Senior member

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    I think someone needs to post the definition of group think; then we can have some proper responses.
     


  3. randallr

    randallr Senior member

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    I think someone needs to post the definition of group think; then we can have some proper responses.

    It's when everyone wants to agree on something because it's easier. So the group becomes less creative and accepts their discovered truths as undeniable fact. Like if you liked wingtips and SF didn't overtime you may not like them either.
     


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    GoSurface Senior member

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    Shared beliefs, indoctrinated. You see it mostly in collectivist cultures, or in religious fundamentalists.
     


  5. Bird's One View

    Bird's One View Senior member

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    I meant "stuffed animal" as understood by children. Not a corpse.

    [​IMG]
     


  6. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Senior member

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    2" cuffs, which actually flow quite well with the trimmer pants that are popular on this board, which i also like.

    I feel AE are well overrated, I like my ferragamos, RL Italian made shoes, and Aldens much much more.

    I was obsessed with pocket squares before i was on this board, and actually liked AE's much more then i do now. I wear them, but they arent my favorites,

    Overall i feel this has helped to improve my looks alot, it was rough at first, but overall helpful with the brutal often advice lacking generalized criticism, but in the end it was helpful.
     


  7. FidelCashflow

    FidelCashflow Senior member

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    I think someone needs to post the definition of group think; then we can have some proper responses.
    We've already got the definition. As far as examples, there's plenty of groupthink abound on SF. 1) Black suits are wrong 2) Allen Edmond shoes are attractive 3) Windsor knots are bad 4) Any jacket that isn't canvassed is unacceptable 5) Unbuttoning jacket sleeve buttons is wrong 6) Paying retail for anything means you got ripped off 7) Recognizable logo's are never acceptable
     


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    holymadness Senior member

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    We've already got the definition. As far as examples, there's plenty of groupthink abound on SF.

    1) Black suits are wrong
    2) Allen Edmond shoes are attractive
    3) Windsor knots are bad
    4) Any jacket that isn't canvassed is unacceptable
    5) Unbuttoning jacket sleeve buttons is wrong
    6) Paying retail for anything means you got ripped off
    7) Recognizable logo's are never acceptable

    +1

    Cue the lineup of objectors making sure that they register their individuality by finding exceptions in their wardrobe to every one of these items.
     


  9. Bird's One View

    Bird's One View Senior member

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    7) I avoided or removed labels and logos before SF ... and also before PATTERN RECOGNITION.
     


  10. Xiaogou

    Xiaogou Senior member

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    I think someone needs to post the definition of group think; then we can have some proper responses.

    Nobody challenges the majority opinion--they want to go along and get along. Look it up in the context of International Relations--very detailed. Most people attributed the Bush Administration with group think, especially on the NIE.
     


  11. Xiaogou

    Xiaogou Senior member

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    We've already got the definition. As far as examples, there's plenty of groupthink abound on SF.

    1) Black suits are wrong
    2) Allen Edmond shoes are attractive
    3) Windsor knots are bad
    4) Any jacket that isn't canvassed is unacceptable
    5) Unbuttoning jacket sleeve buttons is wrong
    6) Paying retail for anything means you got ripped off
    7) Recognizable logo's are never acceptable


    I have come to agree with the group think here in regards to black suits. It is frustrating because if you go to various websites for Business Schools--they have a dress code for class or for presentations. In black and white it says that grey, navy and BLACK suits are appropriate for business wear. IMO, this only contributes to the problem.

    +1 on the AE.

    Disagree on the Windson Knot. IMO, the knot should match the collar.

    Canvassed--Oxxford doesn't use a full canvas.

    +1 on sleeve buttons.

    Retail--I pay retail. I don't want to compromise fit or selection. I like to save $ where I can, but people that buy custom clothes and bespoke shoes aren't looking for a bargain!!

    +1 on logos.
     


  12. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    We've already got the definition. As far as examples, there's plenty of groupthink abound on SF.

    1) Black suits are wrong
    2) Allen Edmond shoes are attractive
    3) Windsor knots are bad
    4) Any jacket that isn't canvassed is unacceptable
    5) Unbuttoning jacket sleeve buttons is wrong
    6) Paying retail for anything means you got ripped off
    7) Recognizable logo's are never acceptable


    I would think the consensus on AEs is that most are ugly but they're good quality, or traditionally have been. (Was reading some complaints earlier tonight, and haven't looked at AE in a long time to know.)

    Other than that, I'd fully endorse 1 and 3.
     


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    For me it's a natural shoulder line in my suits and odd jackets (I used to sport natural and structured, but now I order natural only). And no more deep v-necks [​IMG] And speaking of the majority of SFers, if I may, I guess the groupthink is to have sprezzatura, yet hardly anyone does it. And the most praise usually goes to outfits with NO sprezzatura at all and UTTER 'studiedness'. Correct me if I'm wrong. But overall it's a nice experience.
     


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    Zenny Senior member

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    I'm in a quantum-state of both following all and following none.
     


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