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How much is a Tom Ford suit?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by LuxeStyles, Aug 20, 2009.

  1. academe

    academe Senior member

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    I still don't understand why one would buy Tom Ford RTW or MTM when you could get Savile Row, Italian or French bespoke for roughly the same price... [​IMG]
     
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    I still don't understand why one would buy Tom Ford RTW or MTM when you could get Savile Row, Italian or French bespoke for roughly the same price... [​IMG]


    There's a Savile Row, Italian or French tailor doing Tom Ford-styled suits?
     
  3. academe

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    There's a Savile Row, Italian or French tailor doing Tom Ford-styled suits?

    Point taken... Part of my antipathy stems from the fact that I don't find Tom Ford-styling all that attractive to my eyes, so wouldn't see the value in paying for a MTM garment when I could have bespoke for an equivalent price. I'm curious to see how some of the younger tailors on and off the Row might interpret Tom Ford-type styling...
     
  4. ridefar

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    I still don't understand why one would buy Tom Ford RTW or MTM when you could get Savile Row, Italian or French bespoke for roughly the same price... [​IMG]


    I can't speak for anybody but myself, but... I live in Canada, and honestly, none of the options you mention are available here. Heck, from what I can determine there is no bespoke option worth the name available here at all. So, stylistic issues aside, TF MTM is about as good as it gets in Canada. Along with Brioni, Kiton, etc. MTM programs (dont know and havent looked if those are available here at all). Although I would definitely go bespoke if the option were available, it just isnt. And I cant fly to London or Milan three times each time I want to buy a suit. If I lived in NYC, or HK, or anywhere in Europe really, different story. And aside from all that I honestly havent found a better made or better fitting MTM suit--although your results with MTM will vary depending on the quality of the measurements, no?
     
  5. Loathing

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    Point taken... Part of my antipathy stems from the fact that I don't find Tom Ford-styling all that attractive to my eyes, so wouldn't see the value in paying for a MTM garment when I could have bespoke for an equivalent price. I'm curious to see how some of the younger tailors on and off the Row might interpret Tom Ford-type styling...
    Tom Ford is a lover of Savile Row himself, and apparently has had many bespoke suits made on the Row. So, I don't think he's trying to offer a direct alternative to handmade bespoke right now. It's more about a creating a global image that exudes luxury. It's just like Brioni, Kiton, Zegna, etc., but with but with a younger and more exotic aesthetic. I think there's definitely a place for a brand like Tom Ford: if I had the cash, it would be one of my go-to brands for interesting pieces. It's about time the USA had a brand like this.
     
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    You can get Savile Row bespoke for $3500? That's what a two piece Tom Ford OTR costs. I was under impression that top bespoke houses are $5k+
     
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    When do stores in the US start having sales? That is, when do department stores or boutiques that have TF do their next markdowns?
     
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    I can't speak for anybody but myself, but... I live in Canada, and honestly, none of the options you mention are available here. Heck, from what I can determine there is no bespoke option worth the name available here at all. So, stylistic issues aside, TF MTM is about as good as it gets in Canada. Along with Brioni, Kiton, etc. MTM programs (dont know and havent looked if those are available here at all). Although I would definitely go bespoke if the option were available, it just isnt. And I cant fly to London or Milan three times each time I want to buy a suit. If I lived in NYC, or HK, or anywhere in Europe really, different story. And aside from all that I honestly havent found a better made or better fitting MTM suit--although your results with MTM will vary depending on the quality of the measurements, no?

    Attolini and Kiton MTM is available in Toronto btw.
     
  9. othertravel

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    Attolini and Kiton MTM is available in Toronto btw.

    That's true. But now that we're above parity, it would be a much better deal to get it in the US.
     
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    I see no logical proof of Tom Ford being lesser quality to other RTW / MTM collections encompassing brands like Kiton, Brioni, so on and so forth. Price wise, TF is quite competitive with those brands and is priced at a similar point - MSRP $4K plus. That you can get Brioni or Kiton on the Bay for less than TF is more an issue of availability / scarcity.
     
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    That's true. But now that we're above parity, it would be a much better deal to get it in the US.


    For MTM I am not so sure. OTR is def cheaper in the US, but I think MTM options including Tom Ford are similarly priced.

    Anyone who has tried both can chime in.
     
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    You can get Savile Row bespoke for $3500? That's what a two piece Tom Ford OTR costs. I was under impression that top bespoke houses are $5k+
    I was referring to the MTM product as being almost the cost of SR bespoke. OTR is closer or more expensive than off-Row tailors (e.g. Mahon, Steed, etc.; typically ~£2K ex-VAT) or Napoli su misura etc.
     
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    I see no logical proof of Tom Ford being lesser quality to other RTW / MTM collections encompassing brands like Kiton, Brioni, so on and so forth. Price wise, TF is quite competitive with those brands and is priced at a similar point - MSRP $4K plus. That you can get Brioni or Kiton on the Bay for less than TF is more an issue of availability / scarcity.

    Jeffery D has quite a good discussion of Tom Ford OTR construction, quality, etc.:

    http://tuttofattoamano.blogspot.com/.../tom-ford.html
     
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    For MTM I am not so sure. OTR is def cheaper in the US, but I think MTM options including Tom Ford are similarly priced.

    Anyone who has tried both can chime in.


    In Canada, OTR and MTM prices are pretty similar. Actually, it depends on your fabric, but assuming you choose a grade A-D or E fabric, prices will be similar. Things can escalate from there, and the really expensive fabrics are crazy expensive (total cost 2-4x of the lesser grades). Of course, you could only afford or wear lots of those high grade fabrics if you are a rock star--they are typically things like green a white silk paisley prints for jackets or similar foolishness. And even then, only in a sc, not a full suit.
     
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    I can't speak for anybody but myself, but... I live in Canada, and honestly, none of the options you mention are available here. Heck, from what I can determine there is no bespoke option worth the name available here at all. So, stylistic issues aside, TF MTM is about as good as it gets in Canada. Along with Brioni, Kiton, etc. MTM programs (dont know and havent looked if those are available here at all). Although I would definitely go bespoke if the option were available, it just isnt. And I cant fly to London or Milan three times each time I want to buy a suit. If I lived in NYC, or HK, or anywhere in Europe really, different story. And aside from all that I honestly havent found a better made or better fitting MTM suit--although your results with MTM will vary depending on the quality of the measurements, no?

    Are you saying that you are ready to buy bespoke but aren't pleased with the amount of options to avail?
     
  16. __PG__

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    Tom Ford dinner suits at Harrolds in Melbourne, Australia are $5000.
     
  17. ridefar

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    Are you saying that you are ready to buy bespoke but aren't pleased with the amount of options to avail?
    Yes. The amount of options = 0. As far as I know in Canada there is absolutely nothing remotely close to Saville Row or the top Milanese tailors. Custom yes (meaning a individually tailored suit, but at a significantly lesser quality). Bespoke no. If I am wrong, please correct me, I would love to hear about it. And I don't particularly care where in Canada because I am in Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, etc. very regularly.
     
  18. Watchguy0

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    My fave feature of TF's suits are the adjustable pants - ala rented tuxedo style. Honestly - for a guy like me that demands the perfect fit in the waist this is one of the greatest features. So, anyone know of another great designer who does the same thing but at a reasonable price? $3500 is too rich for this waist sensitive fashion boi. Thanks
     
  19. __PG__

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    Ralph Lauren Purple Label does this.
     
  20. Tano

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    Kiton MTM is 13k AUD in Perth. They sell alot at that price. But Perth has the highest per capita of self made millionaires in the world ... I've been told.
     

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