hmmm, before I started running, I played a lot of racquetball and basketball, so I had a decent start and was soon running mileage in the 8:00 - 8:30 range. Sub-8 came with some decent mileage and a few races, once I got acquanited with longer distances and more discomfort. I'm just now hitting sub-7 in my training, and even that's not a sure thing yet. I tried for sub-7 over four miles yesterday and wound up averaging 7:04. Now, it was cold, there was a big headwind on part of the loop, and blah blah blah but still, it's not just there for the taking, just yet. Today, BTW: 4 miles, kinda tired, pretty cold outside, sore achilles. I went pretty gingerly at the start but picked it up, finished in 30-and-change. Stopped one loop early so I could put gas in the Mrs's jeep.