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Fueco

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4 miles on the trails with the dogs. My usual loop was too crowded, so I did a couple of weird out-and-backs to dodge the masses, even running on the road parallel to the trail for a bit. Nice spring afternoon, with temps in the upper 50s.
 

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6.3 miles this morning. My morning runs earlier this week were in temps in the upper 40s and low 50s. Today it was 34° and it felt like I was running into a steady wind the entire time, no matter which direction I was headed. At least it was sunny.
 

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For a change I decided to run every single street in my neighborhood after a friend started in their neighborhood. Yesterday's run was 7.8 miles. I am thinking this could be done in 6 runs starting from home. The last run will likely be a weird cleanup route.
 

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Went out today after almost a week off letting my hamstring recover. Did a steady 14.3km (just under 9 miles), which was unsurprisingly a bit slower paced than I had been running previously, at 5:16min/km.

On another note, I wore my new Kinvara's and I can't say I was impressed. I've never worn Saucony before and these aren't going to convert me. This iteration in particular (10) got exceptional reviews but I'm struggling to see why at this point. The best I can say about these shoes is that they are there. Other than that, they give me absolutely nothing. They aren't soft or hard, they aren't cushioned or responsive, they don't seem fast or slow. I get no feeling from them. They are just there. Some runners might like this, but I prefer my shoes to have some character, to have something I can engage with.
 

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Went out today after almost a week off letting my hamstring recover. Did a steady 14.3km (just under 9 miles), which was unsurprisingly a bit slower paced than I had been running previously, at 5:16min/km.

On another note, I wore my new Kinvara's and I can't say I was impressed. I've never worn Saucony before and these aren't going to convert me. This iteration in particular (10) got exceptional reviews but I'm struggling to see why at this point. The best I can say about these shoes is that they are there. Other than that, they give me absolutely nothing. They aren't soft or hard, they aren't cushioned or responsive, they don't seem fast or slow. I get no feeling from them. They are just there. Some runners might like this, but I prefer my shoes to have some character, to have something I can engage with.

What have you historically run in?
 

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Went out today after almost a week off letting my hamstring recover. Did a steady 14.3km (just under 9 miles), which was unsurprisingly a bit slower paced than I had been running previously, at 5:16min/km.

On another note, I wore my new Kinvara's and I can't say I was impressed. I've never worn Saucony before and these aren't going to convert me. This iteration in particular (10) got exceptional reviews but I'm struggling to see why at this point. The best I can say about these shoes is that they are there. Other than that, they give me absolutely nothing. They aren't soft or hard, they aren't cushioned or responsive, they don't seem fast or slow. I get no feeling from them. They are just there. Some runners might like this, but I prefer my shoes to have some character, to have something I can engage with.
I can’t stand responsive shoes, so I suspect it’s just a personal preference thing. I ran in Kinvaras (versions 4,5, and 6) before I switched to Altra.
 

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3.65 mile trail run with the dogs. I have to say that a tripled over wool Buff not only potentially minimizes the risk of me infecting someone else, it’s a killer workout, making 5300’ feel like 7000’...
 

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9 miles for day 2 of every single street. Never been to this area of the neighborhood on foot. Voting is at the school in this area but I just run in and run out for that. Nice little area to check out and felt like a killer workout as every cup de sac was up a hill.
 

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What have you historically run in?
I used to run in New Balance, a long time ago - can't remember the numbers, but my gait was assessed and I was fitted for the first pair I had and that's what they came up with. Whatever number it was I followed it through as they upgraded them for a few years.

Following a rethink, I went a lot flatter for a while, running in the first New Balance Minimus shoes, but while I liked what they did for my running form, I found I couldn't to distance in them.

Over the last few years I've been running mainly in Brooks shoes. I used to enjoy the Racer ST but I found that it had too much of a drop and I'm much more of a midfoot striker. I found my perfect shoe with the Pure Cadence, which had the perfect combination of moderate stability / motion control, reasonable support and cushioning and a low drop. In these shoes you could feel the road and your speed. So of course Brooks abolished them. I bought a couple of extra pairs and if I found any more in my size (Mens US 7.5, in case anyone sees any in a local shop sale sometime...), I would still pick them up now.

So... I moved to the Brooks Asteria, which Brooks claimed was a partial replacement for the Pure Cadence. But they really aren't. They are not as low drop (but they aren't high either), and they aren't as durable. I used them for practically all my running over the last year and they are definitely tempo / speed / race shoes, and they don't have the longevity to use as long distance trainers, and I'm not sure they are ideal for half or marathon races either.

So I decided to try something longer-lasting and more comfortable for my longer-distance training. I happened to see an older model pair of Brooks Ghost in my size in sale. I've got used to them now, but I really need that bit of stability too, and the drop is probably too much, so these won't be my long-term choice.

I bought the Kinvara because they seemed to be rather like the Pure Cadence, and I hoped they would be the perfect shoe for my mid-range, steady-pace runs (and maybe longer races). And in terms of specs they are like the Pure Cadence, but they just don't feel like them (yet). Hence the disappointment.
 

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I used to run in New Balance, a long time ago - can't remember the numbers, but my gait was assessed and I was fitted for the first pair I had and that's what they came up with. Whatever number it was I followed it through as they upgraded them for a few years.

Following a rethink, I went a lot flatter for a while, running in the first New Balance Minimus shoes, but while I liked what they did for my running form, I found I couldn't to distance in them.

Over the last few years I've been running mainly in Brooks shoes. I used to enjoy the Racer ST but I found that it had too much of a drop and I'm much more of a midfoot striker. I found my perfect shoe with the Pure Cadence, which had the perfect combination of moderate stability / motion control, reasonable support and cushioning and a low drop. In these shoes you could feel the road and your speed. So of course Brooks abolished them. I bought a couple of extra pairs and if I found any more in my size (Mens US 7.5, in case anyone sees any in a local shop sale sometime...), I would still pick them up now.

So... I moved to the Brooks Asteria, which Brooks claimed was a partial replacement for the Pure Cadence. But they really aren't. They are not as low drop (but they aren't high either), and they aren't as durable. I used them for practically all my running over the last year and they are definitely tempo / speed / race shoes, and they don't have the longevity to use as long distance trainers, and I'm not sure they are ideal for half or marathon races either.

So I decided to try something longer-lasting and more comfortable for my longer-distance training. I happened to see an older model pair of Brooks Ghost in my size in sale. I've got used to them now, but I really need that bit of stability too, and the drop is probably too much, so these won't be my long-term choice.

I bought the Kinvara because they seemed to be rather like the Pure Cadence, and I hoped they would be the perfect shoe for my mid-range, steady-pace runs (and maybe longer races). And in terms of specs they are like the Pure Cadence, but they just don't feel like them (yet). Hence the disappointment.
Thanks for sharing.

In ask because I have primarily run in Saucony over the last few years. Pretty much all training in the Saucony Freedom ISO. I have found them to be incredibly durable and a Swiss Army knife of shoes. Enough cushion for long runs, but also decent weight for speed and tempo days. I ran my first marathon in them and put in a 2:58.

But I hear you on the Kinvara 10. I personally was not a fan. However, I did like the Kinvara 9s. I felt they had more pep than the 10 and more cushion. I ran my second marathon in the Kinvara 9s and PR’d (2:51).

If you can find some 9s on sale might be worth a shot. Also, you might check out the Freedom ISOs.
 

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6.75 on a cool and overcast morning. Stuck to a route that largely avoided people, and increasingly I just run in the street.

Unfortunately I still get some knee pain when climbing or descending, and after 6-7 miles of flat running. When I manually slide my patella up and down there’s a bit of grinding. When this thing ever lets up I think I’ll see an ortho for it. Not sure that anything can be done short of surgery; I’ve done a lot of PT and strength work already.
 

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Unfortunately I still get some knee pain when climbing or descending, and after 6-7 miles of flat running. When I manually slide my patella up and down there’s a bit of grinding. When this thing ever lets up I think I’ll see an ortho for it. Not sure that anything can be done short of surgery; I’ve done a lot of PT and strength work already.
That doesn't sound good, but as you say I'm not sure there's an easy remedy. I think we probably all have 'knee things' we live with. Mine are permanently overextended ligaments and sometimes I forget about them altogether until I'm on a steep downhill...
 

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