I just got my new Citizens in the mail yesterday. I tried them on, and they were perfect. I wore them for about two hrs, just around the house, and no noticable stretching. How long before I'll know if they'll stretch more? I ask this because I want to make sure the waist won't get too big on them before I decide for sure to keep them. FWIW, when I tried on a 31 (I got a 32), everyone commented that they looked too tight, and I didn't know if they'd loosen up enough (When I sat down, you could see my peepee in the 31, they were so tight ). The waist closed on those, but, seeing as they aren't raw denim, I figured they wouldn't stretch like raw denim would. However, how many more times should I "test" them to know for sure? BTW, really cool wash, plain indigo, looks like raw, feels like washed (I like that plain wash for dress).