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How is Johnston & Murphy Made in Italy?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by onix, May 14, 2009.

  1. onix

    onix Senior member

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    So I have been avoiding Johnston & Murphy all the time. But then I came across a pair of Johnston & Murphy made in Italy. Are these old stock? What's the quality? How should I compare it with other high end shoes?

    Thank you
     
  2. Cary Grant

    Cary Grant Senior member

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  3. onix

    onix Senior member

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    Well, that tells me how much I pay attention to J&M. So I guess the quality is still mediocre compared to other high ends shoes then..?
     
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    330CK Senior member

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    From the pictures alone it looks as if the leather would wrinkle just by looking at them.
     
  5. Douglas

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    I think this has been asked elsewhere, but what the hell is "bondwelt" construction? It is a glued welt? Sounds strange, sounds even perhaps weaker than regular glued construction.
     
  6. Niels

    Niels Well-Known Member

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    I had a pair of Johnston & Murphy, made in Italy, about 10 years ago. Quality was decent but it is not a high end shoe and definitely glued.
     
  7. kusumek

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    Just because something is made in Italy, that does not mean it is of high quality.
     
  8. onix

    onix Senior member

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    Just because something is made in Italy, that does not mean it is of high quality.

    Debatable : http://images.google.com/images?q=ItalianGirls [​IMG]

    Anyway, how about J&M made in USA? Are they old stock?
     
  9. cmeisenzahl

    cmeisenzahl Senior member

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    Last week I bought my son a slightly used pair of these shoes, black captoe, for $25. Decent looking shoes, combo rubber/leather soles. They are most definitely corrected grain, but they did take a decent shine, unlike some other CG shoes I've seen.

    Regardless of where they're made, they seem like a full step below any AE I've worn or seen. But may be acceptable for the right price.
     
  10. Closer

    Closer Senior member

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    I had some J&M, another line of Johnston and Murpy, made in Italy, cap toes. This was pre-Styleforum, of course. They wrinkled very, very quickly, and just didnt look good. This was with shoe strees and proper care.

    I have learned to never waste even 50.00 bucks on cheap shoes. Just put the 50.00 bucks toward some decent shoes.
     
  11. J o s h

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    Digging this one out of its grave. Just got an e-mail from J&M touting the hand-crafted in Italy line. Safe to assume that nothing has changed for the better in the 7 years that this thread lay dormant?

    Thanks,
    J
     
  12. SSingh1975

    SSingh1975 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah...I caught it too in my spam mail..lol.

    On the same note, I had 2 pairs of J&M before I moved on to AE (and thus this forum) and I never really had any complaints for the $2XX I paid for them. They served me very well for almost 2 pairs and I ended up selling off during a garage sale.

    Even though my shoe wardrobe is pretty much overfull right now, I wouldn't mind picking up one of these made in Italy pairs for an excuse ;-).
     
  13. SSingh1975

    SSingh1975 Well-Known Member

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    I'm digging this one in particular.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. J o s h

    J o s h Senior member

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    I have their Grayson chukka in that same color. Looks like the boot version of that shoe you're eyeing. I get compliments whenever I wear them.
     

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