How ignorant is the NFL Hall of Fame induction committee?

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  1. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    I think a bigger issue than CC in particular is the 7 player maximum per year. I understand the reason for a max but at this stage of the history of the game the number should be upped imo.
     


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    I actually think they should reduce it. Just my opinion.
     


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    He doesn't deserve to get in ahead of Carter. Unless you believe that Roaf is top 5 in his position all time.

    Edit: Even if you do, I'm sorry but linemen don't score touchdowns and I think that Carter Moss circa 1998 was one of the top WR tandems ever.
     
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    This is where you and I disagree. I think linemen are more important than receivers since games are won and lost in the trenches. The only person who I think really screwed CC out of the HoF was Curtis Martin more than Roaf, Dawson, Doleman or anyone else.
     


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    I think it's more likely that Carter, Reed, and Brown are each keeping the others out of the HOF.

    Bettis is an interesting candidate. He's #6 on the NFL all-time rushing list. Eight of the top ten are in the HOF, and the ninth (Tomlinson) will be. Yet, there is a feeling that Bettis was never one of the best RBs in the league during his career, but rather owes his numbers to his longevity.
     


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    You think it has anything to do with the fact that CC is an asshole?
     


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    Thomas Senior member

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    well, I'm not an asshole and I've not been elected to the HOF.
     


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    And he never had any great playoff performances. He's kind of a Mitch Richmond type.
     


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    Mitch Richmond? You think CC is a Mitch Richmond type? I don't understand this statement.
     


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    Martin was a suspect inclusion (I say this as a Jets fan). Yes Carter got snubbed, but it's not nearly as egregious as Bill FUCKING Parcells missing the cut.
     


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    considering the voters are mostly writers iirc, if he was an asshole to them it could definitely have what to do with it.
     


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    Truth that playoffs matter. Carter never got a ring despite his amazing WR ability so he's in a "lower" class than a lot of other HOF candidates. His time is also fast approaching to get in or never make it, because the pass-happy league is going to start blowing up his records, and the intangibles he had are unquantifiable.

    As proof that wins/playoffs matter: Look at Jared Allen. No fucking way did Terrell Suggs the individual have a better performance this year than Jared Allen, especially when you consider Suggs had an entire defense and for most of the season it was just Allen. But, the guy in the AFC title game got the defensive POTY.

    It was Parcell's first year, he's a shoo-in when the pool is a little more thin.
     


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    Meis Senior member

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    True, but he didn't exactly have a Montana or Young throwing to him... Plus you can't really compare to basketball, especially a guard- Mitch Richmond really would always have had the chance to make a play, whereas a WR can't do shit if the QB can't make the throw.

    His reception numbers alone should put him in (1100+, 4th all-time).

    I can't stand him on tv though...
     


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    Actually, I'd compare him more to a Bernard King type. Amazing numbers, everybody remembers "that guy", but always lived in the shadows of the all time greats. Dominique Wilkins would be a good comparison as well if you excluded the Highlight Reel aspect.
     
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    Yes, but the voters seem to be applying the "playoffs matter" requirement to WRs only. Curtis Martin never won a ring either.
     


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