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How ignorant is the NFL Hall of Fame induction committee?

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Derek92, Feb 4, 2012.

  1. Dakota rube

    Dakota rube Senior member

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    You think it has anything to do with the fact that CC is an asshole?
     
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  2. Thomas

    Thomas Senior member

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    well, I'm not an asshole and I've not been elected to the HOF.
     
  3. FLMountainMan

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    And he never had any great playoff performances. He's kind of a Mitch Richmond type.
     
  4. Slopho

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    Mitch Richmond? You think CC is a Mitch Richmond type? I don't understand this statement.
     
  5. gladhands

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    Martin was a suspect inclusion (I say this as a Jets fan). Yes Carter got snubbed, but it's not nearly as egregious as Bill FUCKING Parcells missing the cut.
     
  6. in stitches

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    considering the voters are mostly writers iirc, if he was an asshole to them it could definitely have what to do with it.
     
  7. deadly7

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    Truth that playoffs matter. Carter never got a ring despite his amazing WR ability so he's in a "lower" class than a lot of other HOF candidates. His time is also fast approaching to get in or never make it, because the pass-happy league is going to start blowing up his records, and the intangibles he had are unquantifiable.

    As proof that wins/playoffs matter: Look at Jared Allen. No fucking way did Terrell Suggs the individual have a better performance this year than Jared Allen, especially when you consider Suggs had an entire defense and for most of the season it was just Allen. But, the guy in the AFC title game got the defensive POTY.

    It was Parcell's first year, he's a shoo-in when the pool is a little more thin.
     
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    True, but he didn't exactly have a Montana or Young throwing to him... Plus you can't really compare to basketball, especially a guard- Mitch Richmond really would always have had the chance to make a play, whereas a WR can't do shit if the QB can't make the throw.

    His reception numbers alone should put him in (1100+, 4th all-time).

    I can't stand him on tv though...
     
  9. Rambo

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    Actually, I'd compare him more to a Bernard King type. Amazing numbers, everybody remembers "that guy", but always lived in the shadows of the all time greats. Dominique Wilkins would be a good comparison as well if you excluded the Highlight Reel aspect.
     
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  10. Ambulance Chaser

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    Yes, but the voters seem to be applying the "playoffs matter" requirement to WRs only. Curtis Martin never won a ring either.
     
  11. deadly7

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    Voters are irrational and inconsistent, borderline stupid?


    COLOR ME SHOCKED!
     
  12. Joffrey

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    Or maybe its a clever plot by NFL to keep fanboys talking about football during the off season?
     
  13. deadly7

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    This is the same NFL who can't figure out how to run an all-star game. I don't think they're that clever.
     
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    Yes but a RBs average playing life is roughly 4 years. To do what Martin did was great. I too don't think playoffs matter.
     
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    They are clever enough to be the top sport in the US by a long shot. Baseball would kill for the ratings that football gets.
     
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    in stitches Senior member Moderator

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    they are biased.
     
  17. deadly7

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    Baseball has 7 times more games a season than football does. When you're a commodity event (once a week versus several times a week) it's easier to have higher ratings.

    I will say, though, football socialism (revenue sharing) is keeping the league solvent unlike many barely-hobbling NBA and MLB franchises, so for that I commend whichever Commish thought that up.
     
  18. Grayland

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    I agree with you about the commodity event, but it's scary how much football kills baseball. On Monday, Oct. 3rd, 2011, the Yankees-Tigers playoff game got a 2.1 TV rating; the regular season Colts-Bucs game got a 4.5 TV rating...without Peyton Manning playing. Hell, the NFL draft is an event that got a 5.47 on a Thursday night in April.

    Chris Carter should be in the HOF.
     
  19. deadly7

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    Baseball is also an absolutely fucking awful sport. It's only fun to watch if you're there in person drinking and hanging out with people. Otherwise it's six hours of guys scratching their asses and strikes/balls. 9 innings, play until 3 outs, an out is 3 strikes or a billion foul balls, ... Do you see a problem/pattern here? In football you know "hey, this play sucked, but in 30s they'll run another one" and there's a bit more strategy to down/distance/point. Plus, even a "bad" play has some action to it where everybody is involved. For 90% of a baseball game you could have the entire infield and outfield sitting on the bench and just have the pitcher play.

    I dont' understand people who watch the draft. I get the day-after coverage from NFL.com or similar sites.

    We're in complete agreement on your last line.
     
  20. Grayland

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    We're in complete agreement on everything you just said. Nicely done.
     
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