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How does EG rank?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by MilanoStyle, Aug 18, 2006.

  1. MilanoStyle

    MilanoStyle Senior member

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    I know EG is regarded as one of the finest UK shoe maker, but really, how would you rank EG/PRPL dress shoes among other fine shoes?
     


  2. Artisan Fan

    Artisan Fan Suitsupply-sider

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    I would place it near the top of RTW. Below bespoke (Amesbury, G&G, Cleverly) and some high end RTW like Kiton, Lattanzi but above most else. I have two pairs and they have held up well over the years. Quality leather, construction, classic styles...a terrific shoe. I think I'm going to buy some more during the next sale.
     


  3. jmatt

    jmatt Senior member

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    I own one pair of EG. I believe - through forum hearsay, that it's the best shoe at its sale-priced price-point (about $550 U.S.). I'm sure there are many shoes better, but not until you make the next huge jump upward to shoes like Kiton or bespoke shoes.

    Everyone is different though. I hope to start buying a pair of EG at each semi-annual sale, until my shoe wardrobe is made up primarily of EG. Not counting Ebay, for $550 I don't believe there's a better shoe.

    Disclaimers:

    1) I use ebay, but not for shoes. 10EEE, UK 10F is just too rare to find
    2) I haven't seen a Lobb for $550......yet.
    3) Vass is now way beyond $550 from anyone.
    4) ymmv, tax and title not included, yadda, yadda
     


  4. Artisan Fan

    Artisan Fan Suitsupply-sider

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    Sometime Elite Forum will get close...saw one the other day at $565 but again the issue is often sizing-translating what is really what and of course availability.
     


  5. MilanoStyle

    MilanoStyle Senior member

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    How can you tell if Kiton shoes are better made than EG shoes without disecting the shoes?
     


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    lee_44106 Senior member

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    How can you tell if Kiton shoes are better made than EG shoes without disecting the shoes?

    On this forum, any article of clothing/shoe associated with "Kiton" is assumed to be of top top quality.[​IMG] Fact? I'm not sure.
     


  7. jmatt

    jmatt Senior member

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    How can you tell if Kiton shoes are better made than EG shoes without disecting the shoes?
    To quote myself: "forum hearsay" They also look visually stunning.
     


  8. Artisan Fan

    Artisan Fan Suitsupply-sider

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    That's because they have a good collection of handmade items that are very well thought of. In my experience, something with a Kiton label is among the best available in almost every category without going fully bespoke.

    As for shoes, there is more handwork in a Kiton shoe than even a great maker like EG. It's a difference of scale and costs (and consequently pricing) however and style considerations play into the equation.
     


  9. Roger

    Roger Senior member

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    This is a multifaceted issue. Whereas EG can be compared with JLobb Paris, C&J, and other machine-made RTW shoes, any comparison breaks down somewhat when EG is compared with Vass, Saint Crispin's, and Lattanzi, for example, since the latter makers produce a true hand-made product. The same problem exists in comparing EG with Kiton and some lines of Santoni and Sutor Mantellassi with which some handwork is present.

    Certainly what can be said is the EG ranks high in the realm of machine-made RTW shoes. In comparison with JLobb Paris, Prestige Line, you'll find as many ranking EG better as vice versa, but the comparison is based on different variables--leather finish and antiquing favoring EG, certain cosmetic features like a beveled waist, for example, favoring JLobb. But is EG superior to the top line of a. Testoni, for example? In the end, style and esthetics have to be taken into account, along with the rater's personal tastes. It's just about impossible, in the final analysis, to produce a definitive ranking involving any commodity that relies on subjective judgments about its quality.
     


  10. Will

    Will Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Kiton vs. EG is the shoe equivalent of the difference between Naples and Saville Row.At that level of construction the differences are more about aethetics.

    If you like the aggressive finishes and detailing of Kiton, EG will not please you. Lobb (London) bespoke probably won't either.

    On the other hand, if you prefer the understated look of an English shoe, you wouldn't wear many of Kiton's models.

    Within the English school, it's difficult for me to find much difference between my bespoke Cleverley oxfords and my EG oxfords on the 82 last. EG's brown antiqueing is actually better than the Cleverleys.
     


  11. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    Once I wore a shoe with a bevelled waist, I found it hard to go back. The bevelled waist is just so cool, makes the shoe look much sleeker, etc. As a result, I find EG difficult to compare to JL's prestige line. The leather nice, the burnishing nice, the styling excellent and classic, and the price is better. However, they lack that detail that I have really come to appreciate. When EG releases their new, high-end line, it will be a different story. But right now, I don't buy them very much.
     


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    When EG releases their new, high-end line, it will be a different story.
    Will that be the (reintroduced) Top Drawer line?

    MtB
     


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    zjpj83 Senior member

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    Will that be the (reintroduced) Top Drawer line?

    MtB

    supposedly. I'm not as tight with the factory as some others here. [​IMG]
     


  14. Artisan Fan

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    This is in fact what I typed in on a similar discussion with Kiton in AAAC.

    Roger, does Kiton have less handwork than Lattanzi in your experience?
     


  15. Looking to improve

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    supposedly. I'm not as tight with the factory as some others here.
    [​IMG]

    I'm asking because I've received an invitation to a trunk show in which the new Top Drawer program is described. That description sounded much like EG's existing m-t-o program to me. But it may have been the store oversimplifying - they, not EG have sent the invitation - so it's entirely possible that the shoes may be better made than 'regular' EG's.

    MtB
     


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