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How do you stack RLPL ties in the world...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Luckyguy, Aug 20, 2006.

  1. Luckyguy

    Luckyguy Well-Known Member

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    Hi gents,

    I am new a member here in this forum. Just thought I pick your brain in the tie department? My understanding is Turnbull & Asser and Altea make their ties. At any rate, how do you stack Ralph Lauren Purple Label ties in the world of quality ties, such as Borrelli, Brioni, Barbera, kiton, etc, etc?

    Thank you
     
  2. Edward Appleby

    Edward Appleby Senior member

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    Just a rough start here:

    Borrelli | Drakes | Charvet | Marinella

    Brioni | Kiton | Barbera | T&A

    Canali | Altea

    Polo | BB
    About right guys?
     
  3. whnay.

    whnay. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I would never buy at full retail but at the $60 to $75 mark as good as any in my collection which includes Dunhill, Canali, Hermes, Ferragamo, Brioni with the exception of Charvet and H&B.
     
  4. Hard2Fit

    Hard2Fit Senior member

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    Just a rough start here:

    Borrelli | Drakes | Charvet | Marinella

    Brioni | Kiton | Barbera | T&A

    Canali | Altea

    Polo | BB
    About right guys?


    I'd put the RLPL ties between the second and third groups, being closer to the second than the third.
     
  5. Dragon

    Dragon Senior member

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    What`s so great about Borrelli and Drakes?
     
  6. Edward Appleby

    Edward Appleby Senior member

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    I'd put the RLPL ties between the second and third groups, being closer to the second than the third.
    They're in there- Altea and Turnbull and Asser.
     
  7. jml90

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    What`s so great about Borrelli and Drakes?
    Borelli has great patterns and Drakes have great pricing!
     
  8. jmh

    jmh Active Member

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    Where are best places to buy Borrelli?

    Drakes?

    Any good site to see them online?

    Thanks
     
  9. gamelan

    gamelan Senior member

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    Where are best places to buy Borrelli?

    Drakes?

    Any good site to see them online?

    Thanks


    check out virtualclotheshorse.com for a decent selection of Borrelli ties. this one is particularly nice: http://www.virtualclotheshorse.com/i...duct_id=220890

    -Jeff
     
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  12. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Just a rough start here:

    Borrelli | Drakes | Charvet | Marinella

    Brioni | Kiton | Barbera | T&A

    Canali | Altea

    Polo | BB
    About right guys?

    Not really for me. Borrelli makes a very stiff tie. Sure, you can get a good knot, but it has no life. Also, they are too wide. Marinella is nice, but also tends towards too stiff. Patterns are nice though. Charvet tends towards flash. Kiton construction is generally nicer than any you list in the top group. They are not obscenely wide like Borrelli and they are moderately soft. The downside is they are a little hit or miss on patterns. The good ones are definitely the top of the list you make. Drakes silks are nice and the hand is soft. I think they belong near the top.
     
  13. LabelKing

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    Not really for me. Borrelli makes a very stiff tie. Sure, you can get a good knot, but it has no life. Also, they are too wide.

    Marinella is nice, but also tends towards too stiff. Patterns are nice though.

    Charvet tends towards flash.

    Kiton construction is generally nicer than any you list in the top group. They are not obscenely wide like Borrelli and they are moderately soft. The downside is they are a little hit or miss on patterns. The good ones are definitely the top of the list you make.

    Drakes silks are nice and the hand is soft. I think they belong near the top.

    Yes, Borrellis are rather stiff, and thick. You can only handle a four-in-hand knot with them.

    I've found them similar in gauge to Zegna.
     
  14. pejsek

    pejsek Senior member

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    I never know what to make of these hierarchies. The first and second ranks are pretty interchangeable and at this level it pretty much comes down purely to personal taste and style. Anyway, let's also not lose sight of the fact that quality and construction can vary quite considerably within a maker's line. For example, I mostly wouldn't give Robert Talbott ties much of a glance, but I think most would agree that their unlined seven folds are as good as anything made by anyone. Similarly, I detest Zegna's printed ties, but some of their woven designs are very fine and the occasional seven fold is a world class creation. The same is true for RLPL. Most of the ties strike me as nice if not spectacular, but there is also the occasional surprise. I recently bought a pair of very nice unlined seven folds made in England for RLPL--small woven patterns in light stiff silk, very 1930s.
    As long as we're quibbling, what about Duchamp (before they went all David Hicks crazy)? Garrick Anderson? The classic Hermes scarf print? Serafini?
     
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    RJman Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Charvet tends towards flash.
    Correction, the Charvet ties sold in the US tend towards flash. Their shop sells ties from the most conservative prints which could bore a Marinella owner to incredible jewel tones... to a stock of seven folds Chuck Barris would have worn.
     
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    I am personally very fond of Ferragamo ties. I think that they often feature quite original and nice designs, if compared to other brands. IMO, most brands insist on very boring designs (sure, they may have class, but I still find them a bit boring). Some Ferragamo ties also have a very nice texture, like the white/blue/turquoise blue silk one that I am wearing right now, bought for EUR 55 (USD 70, aprox.) during sales at the Munich airport.
     
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    Don't forget Nicky and Breuer.
     
  18. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Correction, the Charvet ties sold in the US tend towards flash. Their shop sells ties from the most conservative prints which could bore a Marinella owner to incredible jewel tones... to a stock of seven folds Chuck Barris would have worn.
    Yes that is correct. Sorry about that.
     
  19. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Purple Label ties are made of terrific quality silk, by and large, but the patterns are cut too narrow for me and the ties are too short. I don't like the knot they make. This is a recent trend. I have some from the late '90s, early 2000s, and the cut was different. Fashion must have whispered in Ralph's ear that it was time to go back to narrow.
     
  20. Luckyguy

    Luckyguy Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a lot, guys. I really appreciate your feedback. So Purple Lable ties seem to be in pretty good company. I personally like the PL ties in solid color or just simple stripes. I am in agreement with Manton in regards to their silk quality.

    By the way, whnay, what make you feel it is worth it to pay at full retail for Charvet and H&B?

    Thanks.
     

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