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I am an architect, sitting in an architect's office, drawing illustrations that represents (future) reality, surrounded by drawings that represent reality. I get it. I just didn't understand why you wouldn't judge a folded shirt - couldn't it be illustrative of how a worn shirt could look? Anyway, thanks for the thread - I've narrowed down what i like in a button down:Jeezus--I don't want to sound patronizing or condescending, but you guys are capable of interpreting an illustration as a representation of reality, aren't you? You're tripping all over yourselves.
The illustrations represent worn collars.
All the pictures look like anatomy diagrams to me for some reason
Jeezus--I don't want to sound patronizing or condescending,
I think you are reading too much into this. .
As far as I am concered, everything that needed to be said on this subject was said by dexconstruct on the heavytweed blog entry: the OCBD is a semi-casual shirt style whose joy is in movement and asymmetry, the perfect curves (whatever those are) that may appear are always only ever temporary - if you see them once, you may not see them again, but they may be another equally perfect at another time. Of course the button placement, and the weight of the fabric and the construction of the collar matter and they can all be very wrong, but it seems pretty clear that there is a wheel here that we don't need to reinvent.
For me the winner is # 1. I think it is accomplished through relatively long collar points, buttoned somewhat high (e.g. relative to #4), and somewhat spread, so the roll it pretty somewhat wide and flat on top (while preserving enough collar point length). I think it is ideal because this layout prevents two common problems with BD collars: looking too... pointy (e.g. not enough roll like in # 2), or having a roll such that they may collapse upon themselves (i suppose that's the exagerated S shape, and #4 and #5 look like they could be prone to this problem [problem for me anyway]).
As far as I am concered, everything that needed to be said on this subject was said by dexconstruct on the heavytweed blog entry: the OCBD is a semi-casual shirt style whose joy is in movement and asymmetry, the perfect curves (whatever those are) that may appear are always only ever temporary - if you see them once, you may not see them again, but they may be another equally perfect at another time. Of course the button placement, and the weight of the fabric and the construction of the collar matter and they can all be very wrong, but it seems pretty clear that there is a wheel here that we don't need to reinvent.
I think to be fair to Foo, which I haven't been in this thread, there's a range of collar shapes that are appealing, and things outside that range are generally unappealing. It's not so much that there's one and only one shape, as that would be absurd, but there's a range of shapes that's generally good.
I don't think setting up these diagrams, however, and having people vote on them reveals much about that range. Pictures would probably be better.