I am very fond of AE bucks with rubber soles (light brown suede with dark brown rubber sole). I've got 3 pairs and wear them as my regular weekend shoes during the colder months of the year. I'll continue to buy these (I think anyway; I just discovered Yanko (from Spain) (at Sky Valet in Washington, DC) makes an even more elegant-looking shoe.) On the other hand, as others have said, AE dress shoes have gradually gotten pushed towards "workhorse" or rainy day duty, as English makes such as Grenson, C&J and Edward Green are simply better looking across the board (as well as being made of better materials and more finely constructed) and more comfortable. Side by side, my AE tassel loafers are dowdy compared to my Grenson tassel loafers I got from www.bennies.com; and my AE oxfords are like Oldsmobiles next to the Porsches or Mercedes that are my Edward Greens. That's just the looks, side by side. Alone, AE's don't look "bad" at all. I still wear mine regularly, but they don't elicit the same sense of being well-dressed as they do when I'm wearing Grensons or EGs.