I was in a local thrift store today, and came across a couple of Lanvins, Canalis and a few other lesser-known brands that would be somewhere in that range of quality and price. But for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is that separates a good tie from a cheap mass-produced ones. The material plays a big role, of course, and so does the handiwork, but what else? What are the telltale signs of a quality tie when it's new? And what about in the long run? Holding the narrow tip of the tie to see if it twists only works on new ties, because even the Fishers and Barberas I've got do that after several knots tied. I hope my question isn't too pedestrian, because I really am interested in finding out.