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House of Boateng

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by GreyFlannelMan, Jun 22, 2006.

  1. imageWIS

    imageWIS Senior member

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    Whatever happened to the Gastineau daughter? I think her name was Brittney.
    I can’t know for sure, but I’m guessing: Coke? Jon.
     
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    She's too smart for that. Possibly planning for the accidental release of a sex tape on the net. One featuring her and her estranged former lover/illegal alien personal assistant, Mayra.
     
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    To your earlier point, Bob, I don't expect too much nitty gritty given the stuff I've seen so far. The interesting bits are likely to come out of his pitches to funders, who do know business and who are likely to ask the tough questions that he ought to be asking himself. There was a scene in the latest preview that made me think that this might happen - some blond dude with stubble bitching him out about sthng.

    Basically, the only way that the director will show the 'rolling up your sleeves' stuff will be through confrontation scenes, so there will be a ton of filling in the missing pieces if one hopes to understand the business logic (if there is any) to what OB is doing here.


    i agree that it'll be hard to cover so much in 30 minute episodes, but from the episode guides on the official site, it looks like they do show a lot of different aspects of running one's own label internationally - having to manage offices on both sides of the atlantic, fitting models, meeting with real estate folks to scout out a store location, interior designers, putting on a show while also coming up with new concepts for the next season, etc. etc. of course, it'll all be from Boateng's perspective (after all the show is about him) and i hope that sundance channel gives us an exclusive look at all those behind-the-scene stuff.
     
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    so last night's episode was especially good with the show at pompidou - loved all the clothes and i like how they incorporate comments from Marco Gobetti, Ricardo Tisci, and the stylists Boateng works with, etc. gives the show more of a depth to it than just following around Boateng in his business endeavors. did anyone else catch it?
     
  5. Get Smart

    Get Smart Don't Crink

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    I thought it was a good episode as well. Really liked much of the clothing. Altho at this point it seems (and from seeing next week's previews) that he ISN'T going to open a store in LA. At least that's the impression they're sending out, but maybe that's the "conflict/drama" aspect of the show.
     
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    I thought it was a good episode as well. Really liked much of the clothing. Altho at this point it seems (and from seeing next week's previews) that he ISN'T going to open a store in LA. At least that's the impression they're sending out, but maybe that's the "conflict/drama" aspect of the show.
    Maybe they will pull a "Joe Millionaire" twist at the end and give him, like, a shop-in-shop...

    I wish they had this show in Freedom...
    The clips (on the website) are amusing though... The Ryan Seacrest bit is a race to the bottom between people of little depth.

    At any rate, no shop of Oz's is going to get by selling his bespoke suits at $5000 or $6000 a pop... Any retail outpost is going to have to sell mainly his RTW line. Maybe Miami Vice will help -- I understand he designed (part of?) the wardrobe for it.
     
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    yeah from "scenes from the next episode" it seems like he was back in NYC looking at real estate there so maybe there's a possibility of LA AND New York?? either way it can't be easy to find a good space for an affordable price. the drama ensues and tension rises... [​IMG]

    you're right, he did design for the new Miami Vice movie - this might be one of the suits he did?
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    i also heard that he did something for Matrix Reloaded too - i can definitely see that, the colors and the lines that Boateng emphasizes. we've definitely seen more of his works around than we are aware.
     
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    yeah from "scenes from the next episode" it seems like he was back in NYC looking at real estate there so maybe there's a possibility of LA AND New York??


    Well, didn't he say at some point in the 2nd episode that it would be best to open 5 or 6 stores? He listed LA, NYC, Miami, Chicago. Were there others?

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    ...and Vegas.

    now that's a risky venture, opening that many stores at once with almost zero brand recognition.
     
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    ...and Vegas.

    now that's a risky venture, opening that many stores at once with almost zero brand recognition.


    I agree that I raised an eyebrow when he said Vegas. It's not like people really dress up there...

    Focusing on LA and NY seems natural to me. Miami and Chicago should come as part of a second phase a couple of years after successful openings of the first two (although I question how widely he'll appeal to folks in both cities).
     
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    Well, didn't he say at some point in the 2nd episode that it would be best to open 5 or 6 stores? He listed LA, NYC, Miami, Chicago. Were there others?


    Yes, his "Plan" changed from one store to five in a matter of minutes, with no funding in place for even one store. What I've noticed about OB's activities( his tailoring business, his expansion plans and his duties with Givenchy) is that he makes good use of smoke and mirrors.
     
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    He's probably severely lacking in business acumen (he'd probably admit that much), but I don't know if that makes him a charlatan. [​IMG]
     
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    I didn't raise an eyebrow at Las Vegas (I figure it's flashy there), but Chicago kind of surprised me. I would view Chicago as pretty mild. I admit I guess I don't knowing Chicago any more than Vegas. Is Chicago the kind of market that would support OB?

    And does anyone know when a rerun of the third episode is coming on?


    bob
     
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    Is Chicago the kind of market that would support OB?

    I wouldnt think so. Maybe Vegas, if he can sell to entertainers that generally do well wearing bright flashy suits. Miami I can see more than LA or NYC actually. But I get the feeling watching him in his business conversations that he seems to have no clue what the "right" questions to ask are and he's pretty much a blind man being lead.
     
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    At FNB, there was discussed that Boateng was the new Nutter but then he doesn't seem to have the requisite bespoke tailors to back that presumption up.
     

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