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Hong Kong - Bespoke WW Chan or Load up OTR Brioni, Belvests, and Canali's

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Ohnistun, Apr 25, 2011.

  1. Ohnistun

    Ohnistun Member

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    Moving to Hong Kong in a week.

    Currently in the midst of hording a full spectrum of material goodies (from sunglasses to massage chairs to hair-gel). Now I understand that I'm not being exiled to Kazakhstan or North Korea but frankly nothing quite beat the comforts of certainty. A morsel of familiarity perhaps.

    Unfortunately as my movers are coming in three days and I have to make one final decisions: Should I load up on suits and sport coats that I know for a fact I like from stores I am comfortable with? Or do I go out of my comfort zone and have a try at the various tailors in Hong Kong? What experiences do you guys have in terms of a quality comparison between bespoke suits from Hong Kong and what you typically see at Neiman Marcus and Saks?

    Your input is much appreciated
     
  2. YoungAmerican

    YoungAmerican Senior member Dubiously Honored

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  3. Ohnistun

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    You jest - but I'm pretty sure luxury goods in Hong Kong are typically retailed at full/above US MSRP (that is assuming you even find what you're looking for)
     
  4. dragon8

    dragon8 Senior member

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    If you can afford OTR Brioni suits then you will have no problem getting suits from any tailor for that matter.
     
  5. Ohnistun

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    Right - but I'm thinking quality vs value. Just because you can have suits made for under 2k doesn't necessarily make it better right? Or am I missing something
     
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    You jest - but I'm pretty sure luxury goods in Hong Kong are typically retailed at full/above US MSRP (that is assuming you even find what you're looking for)

    Pricing isn't quite as good as USA, however, selection of Canali, Brioni, Kiton, zegna etc., far exceeds anything short of NYC. The place is a designer shopping Mecca. They have at least two Zegna stores in the airport alone. There are no shortages of designers you are familiar with. The malls are wall to wall luxury brands.

    Chan and others provide bespoke service that is also world class.

    Save your money till you are there and then have some fun exploring the city shopping, etc.
     
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    Or do I go out of my comfort zone and have a try at the various tailors in Hong Kong?

    I'd go for it. Just make friends with Patrick at WW Chan and Peter at Peter Lee both in Kowloon and you'll be well taken care of for years to come.
     
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    I'd go for it. Just make friends with Patrick at WW Chan and Peter at Peter Lee both in Kowloon and you'll be well taken care of for years to come.

    +1

    In fact it's easier that you're moving there. You'll have time to perfect your pattern.
     
  9. Ohnistun

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    Would you still recommend getting suits made from Lee Baron given their recent climb in prices? I'm under the impression that they're not too far off from Gordon Yao, which is then again not that that far off from Chan.

    So is Chan really the one stop wonderstore nowadays? Or would it be worthwhile to have several suits made at various vendors
     
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    dbc Senior member

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    Would you still recommend getting suits made from Lee Baron given their recent climb in prices? I'm under the impression that they're not too far off from Gordon Yao, which is then again not that that far off from Chan.

    So is Chan really the one stop wonderstore nowadays? Or would it be worthwhile to have several suits made at various vendors




    Check out their house styles and see if you like them.

    There was a recent series of posts about HK tailors on A Suitable Wardrobe.
     
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    emptym Senior member Moderator

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    Unless those rtw brands fit you perfectly, including in the collar and arm holes, I'd definitely go w/ Chan and/or another tailor. I'm a huge fan of the folks at Chan. I just wish I lived there or they lived here.
     
  12. Wongtouski

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    Would you still recommend getting suits made from Lee Baron given their recent climb in prices? I'm under the impression that they're not too far off from Gordon Yao, which is then again not that that far off from Chan.

    So is Chan really the one stop wonderstore nowadays? Or would it be worthwhile to have several suits made at various vendors


    I was planning to go Lee Baron for a suit but didn't have time. So I hit up GY's e-mail about pricing and here is what I got (for Gordon Yao).

    "Our pricing starting from US$1550- or HK$12,090- and up (depending on fabrics)."

    Isn't that more than Chan? According to their website, Chan's suits start @ $9000 HKD.

    Love to know more info on price on PL's suits, if one was to make it comparable to that of Chan/Yao
     
  13. iyorito

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    Ohnistun,

    There is a top notch tailor from Tokyo visiting Hong Kong several times a year for a select few clients
    in Hong Kong. He was trained in Milan for 8 years and have been running a shop in Tokyo for 16
    years. The quality is nothing compared to Brioni or Kiton or any other RTW/MTO labels you could get
    at Saks, Neiman or Bergdorf. For what you are looking for, price is a bargain, starting from US$4,300
    for the cheapest fabric and up to US$22,000 max for a 2pc suit. Full bespoke with a few fittings. If you
    are really looking for the TOP quality, do not settle for Hong Kong tailors period. You are simply not
    going to get it.

    Send me a Private Message should you have any interest.
     
  14. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    When you get to Hong King look up Gordon Yao at the Royal Garden Hotel on Mody Street in Kowloon. That will resolve your tailoring problems for many years. Forget OTR, makes no sense in HK whatever price your means forces to to follow.
     
  15. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    Ohnistun,

    There is a top notch tailor from Tokyo visiting Hong Kong several times a year for a select few clients
    in Hong Kong. He was trained in Milan for 8 years and have been running a shop in Tokyo for 16
    years. The quality is nothing compared to Brioni or Kiton or any other RTW/MTO labels you could get
    at Saks, Neiman or Bergdorf. For what you are looking for, price is a bargain, starting from US$4,300
    for the cheapest fabric and up to US$22,000 max for a 2pc suit. Full bespoke with a few fittings. If you
    are really looking for the TOP quality, do not settle for Hong Kong tailors period. You are simply not
    going to get it.

    Send me a Private Message should you have any interest.


    I diosagree with you entirely, there are three well trained and porven tailors (Yao, Chan, Y William Yu) and resorting to a Japanese tailor is just unnecessary one up man ship. There are of course some in Hong Kong who would do that, after all, the number of Rolls Royce motor cars per head of population is I believe the highest in the world.
     
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    you can come to HK with just your credit card
    we got everything you need
     
  17. Ohnistun

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    Unless those rtw brands fit you perfectly, including in the collar and arm holes, I'd definitely go w/ Chan and/or another tailor. I'm a huge fan of the folks at Chan. I just wish I lived there or they lived here.


    It's entirely just as possible that these rtw don't fit me at all... I just haven't discovered it yet and the sales people always promise miraculous alterations from their in-house tailor

    iyorito: I only want to spend 10-15k (US) total on suits this season so I think 20k on a single item is a bit out of my price point at the moment... In fact I find it a bit hard to justify the cost of a Patek grand complication for 3 Japanese suits!
     
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    I'm jealous you'll be able to go to Chan and get a quick turnaround with multiple fittings. +1 to the don't worry about it.
     
  19. dan'l

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    As far as menswear is concerned, I would think that Hong Kong is one of the best cities in the world to live in. Of course you may not have access to the latest stuff from the runways of Milan or Paris, but you could have plenty of things commissioned. And of course the short turnaround time mentioned earlier makes it that much easier to experiment with new styles.
     
  20. Artking3

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    Don't forget to check out The Armoury.
     

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