Homeless guy in my carport - a question of etiquette

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  1. JLibourel

    JLibourel Senior member

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    Wow, glad I don't live in California. I prefer to be able to protect myself and my property.

    Actually, while California gun laws have become very draconian in recent years, the actual laws governing protection of self and property have been among the most lenient unless the Supreme Sovi...er, state legislature, has gotten around to amending them in recent years unbeknownst to me. In many states there is a "duty" to retreat if you can in the event of a home invasion. In California, you can not only stand your ground but even (unless this has been changed) go in pursuit.
     
  2. mack11211

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  3. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    I'm a troll these days. When I get good enough, I intend to invade some forum and, over time, chase away the old guard and bend it to my will...
    You're not an "appointed" government official in Florida, making six figures off your retirement income, with a penchant for blue jeans are you?
     
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    I was simply questioning the both of you, because I don't understand your viewpoint. Coming back with "I don't have to explain anything to you young'uns because you don't know anything" doesn't exactly thrill me much.
    Forgive us for patronizing, if that's what you thought was happening. But you and the other posters here seem to be scared silly by a generic homeless guy who's trying to find a dry spot to sleep.
    Call the cops and arm the kids!
    Or you could go out and spend an hour with him, chat him up, see what he's about. I do not think that you "...don't know anything because you're young." I'm older than you, by a lot, but I've also never been this old before and I'm still learning stuff too. One of which is that I too could be homeless, again.​
     
  5. rach2jlc

    rach2jlc Prof. Fabulous Dubiously Honored

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    Forgive us for patronizing, if that's what you thought was happening. But you and the other posters here seem to be scared silly by a generic homeless guy who's trying to find a dry spot to sleep.
    Call the cops and arm the kids!​

    Or you could go out and spend an hour with him, chat him up, see what he's about. I do not think that you "...don't know anything because you're young." I'm older than you, by a lot, but I've also never been this old before and I'm still learning stuff too. One of which is that I too could be homeless, again.​


    This makes sense and I apologize if I seemed "bothered" or "angry" by your post. That wasn't the truth... I was just genuinely curious as to what your viewpoint was and the reasons behind it because I didn't understand.

    I would very much like to do the "chat him up" approach... but it seems like the OP tried this already and was nice in asking him to leave. He didn't. He then called the police... and the guy is still turning up and is even watching the OP's schedule to ensure that he can sleep there unmolested.

    Something here just doesn't seem like "good natured hobo looking for a place to rest." Again, sorry if I sound "scared," but that just doesn't seem kosher to me.

    Thanks, though, for the clarification. God willing, none of us will be homeless but, these days, who knows???
     
  6. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    Forgive us for patronizing, if that's what you thought was happening. But you and the other posters here seem to be scared silly by a generic homeless guy who's trying to find a dry spot to sleep.
    Call the cops and arm the kids!​

    Or you could go out and spend an hour with him, chat him up, see what he's about. I do not think that you "...don't know anything because you're young." I'm older than you, by a lot, but I've also never been this old before and I'm still learning stuff too. One of which is that I too could be homeless, again.​


    Nah, at your age, simply enroll in Medicaid and you can get into an assisted living non-profit that abound for folks like you. Sell your computer first though. That'll look bad on the application.
     
  7. Orsini

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    You're not an "appointed" government official in Florida, making six figures off your retirement income, with a penchant for blue jeans are you?
    And constantly rubbing it it... No, unfortunately not. I thought old what's-his-name lived up north somewhere. In any event, I will need a name/handle for my decent into oblivian... This is fun. I now see why he does this...
     
  8. Orsini

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    What in the world...
    The DA is going to want to clear this case fast. You got an abili?
     
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    One thing is clear: most of the respondents to this thread will not be in competition for any Mother Theresa awards...

    I suppose to get that I'd have to receive contributions from millions of people around the world, who make their gifts under the assumption that I'd actually improve the lot of the poor I work with. Then I'd have to use that money to establish, even for the Catholic Church, reactionary religious orders. If confronted about my hypocritical callousness toward the indigent in my care, I'd then have to declare that "suffering is a gift from god."
     
  10. IUtoSLU

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    I think that any sign of weakness or openness or invitations to a person like this is trouble.

    Finding him a shelter = good
    talking to him and letting him stay "for a few nights" = bad
    Getting a church to help him = good
    Feeding him = bad

    The reasoning being, if he senses freebies, why would he leave? Look at those signs/signals that someone else linked too. Its pretty much proves my point that any direct benefit to him will result is being taken advantage of in the present and possibly the future.
     
  11. Orsini

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    I suppose to get that I'd have to receive contributions from millions of people around the world, who make their gifts under the assumption that I'd actually improve the lot of the poor I work with. Then I'd have to use that money to establish, even for the Catholic Church, reactionary religious orders. If confronted about my hypocritical callousness toward the indigent in my care, I'd then have to declare that "suffering is a gift from god."
    How about you? You got an abili?
     
  12. rach2jlc

    rach2jlc Prof. Fabulous Dubiously Honored

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    The DA is going to want to clear this case fast. You got an abili?
    How about you? You got an abili?
    What? You are making even less sense than before. For what does anybody need an alibi? Did anybody advocate killing the poor man? I don't think so.
     
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    Take him to your local ACORN office they'll sign him up to vote and might even take care of him until they get him to sign a few hundred absentee ballots!

    I'd put a motion detecting spotlight in your carport, it might scare him off, but it will also alert you to his presence. If he tries to disable it, you not only have him on trespass you can charge him with vandalism.
     
  14. GoSurface

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    I probably sound real real ignant, but does 'carport' mean garage? Is 'carport' a West Coast thing?
     
  15. rach2jlc

    rach2jlc Prof. Fabulous Dubiously Honored

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    ^It's like an open garage... a roof on supports over a concrete slab, but no walls or door.
     

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