Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, May 21, 2014.
Serious answer: because it draws attention away from the face....
Short answer, IMO? It can.
Longer answer, I think some people are hesitant to make the PS the defining, or at least most noticeable element because it can go awry so easily (and usually does). The vast majority, and I mean vast majority, of times I have noticed a PS first it has been an unmitigated disaster. However, high risk-high reward. When it does work it's something brilliant to see.
It can but it's dandyish in most cases. I don't think UC's square is the most observable piece of the fit. That would be the suit. The texture and pattern are the most attention-grabbing to my eye. Among the reasons that the whole works: the texture spectrum is filled. Each brown is a different shade so nothing blends into anything else. Orange and purple are solid complements for brown and each other; the particular orange and purple are warm but not too warm against all of the subdued browns.
I'm probably the youngin on here that likes bold PS' and ties, but honestly that tie is a miss for me because it's neither here nor there. It's erring towards a bit bold, but it stops short. It's a bit restrained, but not really.
It just seems so lost and confused.
Okay, that's probably a good reason to have given it some love. I respect that!
If UC's fit is flawed, most of us don't have a prayer.
I never said anything about how his stuff fits. Was that in reference to TnT?
I think precisely because it is so damn near perfect, it makes it interesting to discuss the finer points which we usually don't touch in this thread. I'm sure everyone here agrees that UC's fit is fantastic.
A bit of both, but primarily to TnT. The collar's roll (which I suspect is indeed button-down) is in absolutely perfect consonance with tweed, and if a bit of roll in the vest is a sign of a bad fit, God forbid we ever carry a phone, a pen, or a wallet on our persons.
As to the tie, I love it--it looks like an ancient madder paisley. "A bit restrained, but not really" captures the look a tweed three-piece in the 21st century invokes pretty well, I think.
I said that I loved the fit of the vest and even illustrated the puckers and rolls that make it great. That's how vests should fit, as opposed to flat and clean.
There are at least two things I shouldn't like about this: silk (assuming it's ancient madder silk and not wool challis) with tweed, and oxford cloth in a standard collar.
And yet, I love every goddamn piece of it.
My mistake--I thought it was a sarcastic critique. Apologies!
UC, please ignore all criticism of your fit. It is spot on in every way. I can't even find a nit to pick on that one.
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Edit: full fit shot added at request of GMMcL.
Absolutely. I saw this on tumblr and thought it looked awesome and my opinion is unchanged with all the commentary.
And I really like the oxford cloth with a standard collar AND ancient madder with tweed.
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