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I found some opinions on the hierarchy of formal dress shoes:

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A great night! Please note, the brown shoe has enjoyed fame and fortune long enough...it's time for the black shoe to return to greatness

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Clags, buy a hat.


Too young to wear a hat without it being affected. But rest assured, I hit 50 and I find a hat that fits my oversized noggin, it will be purchased.

JFrat, that's an epic suit, and you were right to keep everything else simple. But I don't think it works with a white shirt.
 
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EDIT: Jfrater, I like what you have going on, but I think the shoes are too casual (they're just about right in formality for the cloth of the suit, but I think the white shirt and restrained furnishings make it a touch dressier). In a perfect world, you'd be able to find a shirt with a spread collar that perfectly continues the seam between collar and lapel (something I normally don't sweat, but I think the seam on that lapel is placed differently in order to make that possible).


I'll bear the shoes thing in mind - to be honest, I presumed they were formal because they were capped toe with broguing. May I ask what you would consider a better alternative?

As for the spread collar - there's a problem with that - wide spread collars make my face look extremely fat and strongly accentuate my long neck. I definitely don't suit them. Having said that, the collar on that Kiton shirt isn't as long as I would like it because I much prefer the collar tips to hide beneath the lapels of my jacket.
 
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Too young to wear a hat without it being affected. But rest assured, I hit 50 and I find a hat that fits my oversized noggin, it will be purchased.

JFrat, that's an epic suit, and you were right to keep everything else simple. But I don't think it works with a white shirt.


You think blue would have been better? I did trial both and ultimately decided on white because so much of Tom Ford's stuff is based around white.

Interesting story: I went to an antique shop I frequent today and the owner loved the suit and asked if she could feel the fabric. She asked what it was and when I told her Tom Ford she told me she was the Gucci buyer for Australasia before Tom Ford left the company! What a coincidence!

By the way - I think you would suit a hat very much - even at your age. I think you'd carry it off with aplomb.
 
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Casual Friday at security guard headquarters. I think the shoes may not be formal enough for the outfit. I am really digging these pants though. I like the fuller cut and drape.


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u have a hell of a lot of latitude with your shoe choice there IMO AAS - the fit is such a mish-mash of formal and informal - 'post-modern' if u will.


I think Tom Ford doesn't get a lot of love here but I find his fabrics to be beautiful and his clothes very well tailored.

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noice- I like the cut and can't fault the proportions of the tie and shirt

Edti: just noticed YRR's comment- IMO the shoes r fine given that the suit is so sporty. I wouldn't go more formal.


I found some opinions on the hierarchy of formal dress shoes:

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monks and derbys together IMO- the classic JL William DM in brown box would be less formal than a 3 eye blucher in the same leather, for example.

re color, IMO a blucher in No 8 shell is more formal than the same shoe in tan.
 
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u have a hell of a lot of latitude with your shoe choice there IMO AAS -  the fit is such a mish-mash of formal and informal - 'post-modern' if u will.



noice-  I like the cut and can't fault the proportions of the tie and  shirt

Edti: just noticed YRR's comment-  IMO the shoes r fine given that the suit is so sporty.  I wouldn't go more formal. 





 monks and derbys together IMO-  the classic JL William DM in brown box would be less formal than a 3 eye blucher in the same leather, for example.

re color, IMO a blucher in  No 8 shell is more formal than the same shoe in tan.


What do you think of the white shirt? My Tom Ford suits elicit the most compliments of all my suits - I wonder if I ought to get my tailor to alter my new suits in a more modern style in future
 

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A suit that sporty wouldn't take a white shirt ordinarily, but blue and green together? not for me.

re: alteration- your tailor can't do much about the collar, gorge, lapels, shoulders, drape or pockets i.e. the foundation of a suit's 'style', so not sure what u mean (assuming you're talking about alterations)
 

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A suit that sporty wouldn't take a white shirt ordinarily, but blue and green together? not for me.  

re: alteration-  your tailor can't do much about the collar, gorge, lapels, shoulders, drape or pockets i.e.  the foundation of a suit's  'style', so not sure what u mean (assuming you're talking about alterations)


Oh - I meant slightly shorter in the jacket and more tapered in the trouser legs.
 

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A suit that sporty wouldn't take a white shirt ordinarily, but blue and green together? not for me.  

re: alteration-  your tailor can't do much about the collar, gorge, lapels, shoulders, drape or pockets i.e.  the foundation of a suit's  'style', so not sure what u mean (assuming you're talking about alterations)


Incidentally - what shirt would you recommend?
 

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Too young to wear a hat without it being affected. But rest assured, I hit 50 and I find a hat that fits my oversized noggin, it will be purchased..


Stop squealin, cuz its all in your head.

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Jfrat, solid light blue. The Italian background.
 

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Absolutely right. Just one small correction it should be balmoral/oxford vs blucher :)


Ah yes, thank you. A slip of the fingers.

And to further expand: balmoral/oxford vs blucher/derby.

There, I think that is what I was reaching for.
 

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