Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, May 21, 2014.
Really? Never heard that one. Seems weird to me. How could anyone possibly think Beethoven was Austrian? To me, his music is the epitome of Germanness. I suppose it's because he lived and worked in Vienna for most of his adult life. (Another personal bon mot - my parents in the late 40s lived for a while in a "Beethovenhaus" on Schwarzspanierstrasse.)
Because he spent most of his professional career there, or in nearby towns, and he died in Vienna. He's buried in the Zentralfriedhof, which is very much worth a visit. Don’t forget he was pupil of Haydn, and his music, particularly the earlier stuff, is regarded as part of Viennese classicism.
And there you have it in a nutshell. Haydn and Beethoven. Austria and Germany. Chalk and cheese. Beethoven clearly learned much from Haydn (although neither he nor Haydn would have conceded this) - the formalism combined with playfulness drenches both men's compositional styles - but whereas you always know that Haydn is essentially tongue-in-cheek, with Beethoven it's the exact opposite. The humour in Beethoven's music dresses up an underlying intent which is deadly serious.
Just last Thursday I and a couple of friends performed the Beethoven string trio op 9 no 3. This is, of course, "early" Beethoven. Utterly brilliant music, astonishingly mature and complex, and....so incredibly German. Superficially Haydnesque, in reality this supposedly Viennese music is bathed in an entirely un-Austrian atmosphere.
Anyway, back to normal programming...
It was sunny & crisp this morning.
Thanks. I think part of the issue is that there was a greenish tint to those lights, and that made the burgundy ascot look more like the brown square, though they are about the same saturation and value, with only hue and pattern to differentiate them IRL.
Thanks for the advice, and the kind words. I think the issue I had was a combination of all the factors you pointed out, plus the tighter neck of the V-neck pushing it down, and the fact that I did not allow the costume department enough time for last looks before shooting.
Op 31 no.1 and op 79 beg to differ.
I wore this last week. I didn't post it for fear of reprisal, but what the heck. The jacket is new to me and had to be worn with this tie at least once. I won't do it again.
Now you just need the matching pocket square...
Actually...given the matchy-ness of the jacket and tie...I think you broke it up pretty well with the inclusion of the vest.
I prefer the fit with the jacket unbottoned.
Like this one. I have three black watch pocket squares (cotton, silk, and wool). I decided to not wear one of them with this fit. Thanks.
I mainly don't like the horsies on the tie.
They're not horsies, they're polo ponies.
In search of the perfect Gun Club Check + Striped Tie combo...kept it very simple here...but I think it works very well.
The jacket looks great, but I don't think the tie goes well with that jacket at all. I think the navy is off. A burgundy tie with the silver/white stripes would work better.
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