Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, May 21, 2014.
They say that the cleverest thing the Austrians ever did was to convince the world that Hitler was German.
Irony upon irony...
Ironic, that is the depiction there, since Ataturk despised the fez, and saw it as a symbol of rotting Ottoman corruption. If I remember correctly I am almost certain he made wearing the fez illegal. He actually created a law requiring all male Turkish citizens to wear western hats (Fedoras, Homburgs, ect..) in order to help create a collective virtue of modernization. I have not been to Turkey. I have made Turkish friends, so all I know is what they tell me, and what I read about the history and politics.
When I meet many Turkish people who are visiting California, one of the first things they say in conversation is that I look like Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. I assumed the same would be thought when they were back home. May I ask why you do not wear your homburg in Istanbul? I can understand when in Istanbul do as the Turks do.
Who were the emporers in the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation between 1438 - 1806 (exception 1742 - 45)?
I had the privilege to shoot these challenge photos in London. Berkley Square and outside the Drake's store.
Cashmere tie from Drake's,
Cashmere cardigan from Berg&Berg.
Cashmere lined traveller jacket from Loro Piana,
Cashmere blend SC from Corneliani
Nice to see a member ( particularly a younger one) choose the ascot. A great classic look, rarely seen these days. Kudos for that. The ascot is actually trickier to employ than some might think and you do seem to be having some trouble with yours. Both the ascot and shirt collar are collapsing into your chest. This is a natural occurrence so you have to take precautions to guard against this. Much has to do with the shirt chosen. The collar needs to have some structure to it. A high stand with long points, medium to firm interlining and the use of stays will give it the strenght to withstand the force of gravity. Here's Cary Grant wearing the type of collar needed for wearing an ascot. Here you see how his jacket collar serves to anchor the points, thereby keeping the whole shebang standing upright. Now all that's needed is to affix the ascot firmly so that it rests slightly above the collar line. And Bob's your uncle.
Yesterday, casual friday.
Do you take your blankly to work?
I correct myself slightly. The hat worn by the young Atatürk was a roughly cylindrical Persian lamb, flaring out slightly from bottom to top. The photo may have been from his years in the Turkish army. If you are told that you look like Atatürk, take it as a compliment, he was considered quite hansdsome as a young man.
As for why I did not wear my Homburg to Istanbul, it had much less to do with politics and more with airline logistics. I was afraid that either the new one (medium grey) or the older one (black) would suffer damage from the trips between NYC and London, or between London and Istanbul. I may wear the black Homburg in February, when next I am in London, as there is the chance I may attend a black tie event, and the Homburg would be both insulation and decoration of an appropriate sort for such an event.
That is a shame indeed. I am sure that we would have enjoyed meeting you as well. As it is, I am not staying far from your photo venue - a short term flat rental in St. James (don't be too impressed, however - the flat is smaller than our hotel room in Istanbul.
That is a shame A, next time you're in town give us s shout!
I was unfortunately occupied with meetings and lunch with clients. Spent the afternoon in the stores and strolling along the Thames. It's always a treat.
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