I don't know why you feel the need to bring Manton and Foo into something that has nothing to do with them...your assumption that I and other members of this forum can make no judgements or distinctions for themselves and blindly follow a few is frankly offensive and derogatory. Moreover, these comments are completely irrelevant to the discussion, they detract from your argument, and my respect for you. Furthermore, my comment regarding a wider lapel was made only in reference to the very skinny lapels posted just above...and...it cannot be denied that a wider lapel would look better and more classically styled. If it cannot be denied, we have arrived at a truth. That's not to say that some won't find the skinny lapel more appealing...there are many variables that could lead one to come to this conclusion...but never can they conclude that this skinny lapel is timeless and classic.