I'm sorry that you feel that way. I am pretty open to most discussions. I did not mean to "treat you like a child", and I apologize if that is the impression I gave. MY only point was that I am not going to discuss whether or not a forum in which the administrator publicly maliciously humiliates Styleforum posters, and where the administrator deliberately took advantage of our PM system to try to undermine Styleforum, is okay. If you ever decide to come back, you'll be very welcome. Cheers, Fok.