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It's not strictly a sprezzatura thing. In some cases it's a function of modern ties not being suitable for high-rise trousers.
That's simply not true. Regardless of the rise of the trousers, if one made the front blade longer and the back blade shorter—so that the blades were the same length—the tie would wind up hitting higher up (meaning, shorter) on the wearer's body.
 

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I understand your point but disagree. Even with perfectly balanced back and front blades the tie will appear to be too long with high rise trousers. We see this effect in this thread quite regularly. The solution is to either make a larger knot, or to knot the tie so the front blade is shorter. The back blade can be either tucked into the trousers or not. In all of these
cases the solutions are suboptimal.
 

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Or you can order a tie of custom length from a maker like Sam Hober.
 

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Dusted off a tin flute today, been wearing separates since returning to work post lockdown (easier to launder) but have an actual meeting today so thought I would up my game. I'm feeling like if I'm going to wear a suit it might as well be a 3 piece. That said, I only have 2 and have lost a bit of weight, thisbused to be on the tight side on me, it is ok to the untrained eye but there are elements of the fit I'm not 100% with. Am I getting away with it? Thought I would go for dark brown oxfords to lighten it up a bit and not be too funeral director/snooker player!
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It's not strictly a sprezzatura thing. In some cases it's a function of modern ties not being suitable for high-rise trousers.
I would be more sympathetic to this point of view if people made efforts to hide the back blade in fit pics. Instead, it seems like many people go out of their way to highlight the back blade.
 

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@mak1277 As I said in the post you quoted, it's not *strictly* a sprezzatura thing. In *some* cases, etc. Of course there are wannabe influencers who do it. But that affectation is significantly less common here and even less so in the real world.

For example, you can see how long the tie is in the second photo of my last fit. It is well below the second button of my jacket. That is a standard length tie with front and back blades perfectly balanced, and I am 188 cm tall. For those of average height, the problem is compounded. It's definitely a tie thing.
 

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@mak1277 As I said in the post you quoted, it's not *strictly* a sprezzatura thing. In *some* cases, etc. Of course there are wannabe influencers who do it. But that affectation is significantly less common here and even less so in the real world.

For example, you can see how long the tie is in the second photo of my last fit. It is well below the second button of my jacket. That is a standard length tie with front and back blades perfectly balanced, and I am 188 cm tall. For those of average height, the problem is compounded. It's definitely a tie thing.
That fit was great, and your tie doesn't look too long at all. My original comment was about the highlighting of the back blade being longer, which I do see plenty around here. Obviously you were taking care not to highlight it.
 

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@mak1277 Thank you for the kind words.

To my eye it seems long. I would definitely prefer it to not poke out the bottom of my jacket at the slightest hint of movement.

Anyway, as far as SF goes, I see the long tie issue more commonly, but I could be wrong. For example, @Konnor and @Roy Al encounter this problem quite regularly.
 

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@mak1277 Thank you for the kind words.

To my eye it seems long. I would definitely prefer it to not poke out the bottom of my jacket at the slightest hint of movement.

Anyway, as far as SF goes, I see the long tie issue more commonly, but I could be wrong. For example, @Konnor and @Roy Al encounter this problem quite regularly.
Yeah, I've just stopped caring about it. The rise on my trousers has gotten higher and higher to the point that its at now (above the navel in most cases). I either wear the tie below the waist line and have it sit where it would if I was in a standard rise trousers, or I have the back blade go halfway to my knees and tuck it in. I've started going towards the latter.

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Belatedly, yesterday's outfit: Paisley and stripes.

Threads cited:

Items purchased new: Brooks Brothers shirt, Ballin trousers, Coppley DB blazer, Allen Edmonds laceups, Goldtoe socks.

Items purchased pre-owned from eBay, thrift, & consignment: Albert Thurston braces, Carrot & Gibbs tie.

Antique linen pocket square from a friend.

Fedora: Goorin Brothers in Charleston

Timex Weekender watch with Smart Turnout watch band.

Glasses and sunglasses: Warby Parker.


#VintageStyleNotVintageValues #stylishacademic #professorstyle #fashionintheclassroom #BlackLivesMatter

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Yeah, I've just stopped caring about it. The rise on my trousers has gotten higher and higher to the point that its at now (above the navel in most cases). I either wear the tie below the waist line and have it sit where it would if I was in a standard rise trousers, or I have the back blade go halfway to my knees and tuck it in. I've started going towards the latter.

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I like this jacket a lot. I'm currently on the hunt for wool ties. Where is this one from? I hope you're wearing pants.
 

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